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ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:49:00 - [1] - Quote I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. Join my Corp HERE
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2887	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:51:00 - [2] - Quote Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. »We still have our honor!
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 427	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:52:00 - [3] - Quote See sig... nuff said Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse though to slack off on releasing a heavy laser =.=
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:55:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... Join my Corp HERE
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2497	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:58:00 - [5] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. No, I am not CCP Logibro.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 814	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:01:00 - [6] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... lolwut? Did you miss the part in history class where knights wore crosses on their chests and invaded the middle east in the name of christianity? You know, the crusades? Hmmm... 24th Imperial Crusade.... where have I heard that? "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 814	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:01:00 - [7] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. 1800's British empire. And it's spelled "l-a-z-0-r-s". "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2498	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:05:00 - [8] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. 1800's British empire. Meh, but Britain had abolished slavery by the early-mid 1800s, plus they weren't as completely obsessed with religion as the South was back then(and still is). No, I am not CCP Logibro.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 814	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:06:00 - [9] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. 1800's British empire. Meh, but Britain had abolished slavery by the early-mid 1800s, plus they weren't as completely obsessed with religion as the South was back then(and still is). No parallel is perfect. They're all better than Sparta though. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:07:00 - [10] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. Gallante & Caldri are more American, in my opinion... Join my Corp HERE

Tiny Pineapple Army of 420's Lokun Listamenn 53	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:18:00 - [11] - Quote I see Caldari as the Soviet Union based on their emphasis on the group instead of the individual. I mean wouldn't it be cool if Caldari had russian accents.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4939	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:19:00 - [12] - Quote Wouldn't Minmatar be spartans? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist Orion Empire 312	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:24:00 - [13] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: ...although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. I'm waiting for my heavy suit to go with my HMG. Cat Merc wrote: Wouldn't Minmatar be spartans? Vikings, actually. Pineapples on pizza.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 817	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:24:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Wouldn't Minmatar be spartans? Much better fit. Here's some tuna. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2890	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:40:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Wouldn't Minmatar be spartans? More like the Mujahideen. »We still have our honor!
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 289	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:45:00 - [16] - Quote Come on people it is so obviously Romans. The red/gold/white is a Roman color thing, religious inscriptions on weapons, conquering the galaxy and enslaving the conquered. Hell we even have an empress (used to be emperor). You can't get much more roman than the amarrians are. Minmatar = Africa in space Gallente = French/american in space (well the bad qualities x100) Caldari = Space japanese EDIT: just look at my NPC corp name. Come on guys, this is like super obvious stuff here. Best counter to Tanks? Tanks Best counter to Infantry? Tanks Best counter to Dropships? Tanks
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5232	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:47:00 - [17] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. We are less Spartans a more a Holy Roman Empire, we share more tenets with them than the Spartans. I would have more closely associated some of the Caldari societal aspects wih the Greek city states.t To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven 2388	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:48:00 - [18] - Quote Actual notable Amarrian signing in here. OP, I must say that you are incorrect and your post is quite stupid. You are entitled to your opinion though so carry on. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 485	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:49:00 - [19] - Quote None of the races even know who or what the Spartans were. They don't even know that their species all originate from Earth. There is only Legend and folk law left of the time before the EVE Gate. Edit - The 4 major races might assume they are one and the same but they certainly dont act that way. I am sure if they knew the truth about who they were things would be very different.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4940	Posted - 2013.12.23 21:49:00 - [20] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Come on people it is so obviously Romans. The red/gold/white is a Roman color thing, religious inscriptions on weapons, conquering the galaxy and enslaving the conquered. Hell we even have an empress (used to be emperor). You can't get much more roman than the amarrians are. Minmatar = Africa in space Gallente = French/american in space (well the bad qualities x100) Caldari = Space japanese EDIT: just look at my NPC corp name. Come on guys, this is like super obvious stuff here. SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Leonid Tybalt DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 11	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:05:00 - [21] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... lolwut? Did you miss the part in history class where knights wore crosses on their chests and invaded the middle east in the name of christianity? You know, the crusades? Hmmm... 24th Imperial Crusade.... where have I heard that? Actually the crusades was not a war of aggression on the part of christians. The Vatican and Knights Templar just got sick of the fact that muslims constantly raided, murdered and raped Christian pilgrims traveling to and fro the holy land. (No im not a christian or bigoted towards islam, I hate all Abrahamic religions equally being a militant atheist, but I do try to keep a good grasp of history)
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 421	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:08:00 - [22] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. And who beats America in the 1800s? No one. Do not s* talk my set b** You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Leonid Tybalt DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 11	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:11:00 - [23] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Caldari = Space japanese (80s business). Erm, far from all caldari have asian features (only the achura does, while the civire look more like europeans). It's more like Caldari = the axis forces of WW2 (Germany, Japan etc.) but with a more capitalistic spin than fascist... In Space
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5234	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:19:00 - [24] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Caldari = Space japanese (80s business). Erm, far from all caldari have asian features (only the achura does, while the civire look more like europeans). It's more like Caldari = the axis forces of WW2 (Germany, Japan etc.) but with a more capitalistic spin than fascist... In Space Its not that the are represented in EVE by physical features but there are a great many aspects of an industrial Japanese society as well as colonial Europeans in America. The only reason you might have believed that about the Caldari is the recent period of state political control under Tibus Heth who while being rather.....unstable did indeed bring back the notions of meritocracy and corporate pride. Currently now the 8 CEO of the Megacorporations rule the State once again. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2893	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:29:00 - [25] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... lolwut? Did you miss the part in history class where knights wore crosses on their chests and invaded the middle east in the name of christianity? You know, the crusades? Hmmm... 24th Imperial Crusade.... where have I heard that? Actually the crusades was not a war of aggression on the part of christians. The Vatican and Knights Templar just got sick of the fact that muslims constantly raided, murdered and raped Christian pilgrims traveling to and fro the holy land. (No im not a christian or bigoted towards islam, I hate all Abrahamic religions equally being a militant atheist, but I do try to keep a good grasp of history) Not really... Western Europe, or Rome, wanted to take the opportunity to save the Byzantine Empire from getting overtaken, at least that was a reason they cited. The real reason was that the Roman Catholic Church got sick of the Western European kingdoms attacking each other, so they hoped to divert the warrior classes to the middle east to try to unite them. It didn't work and one of the crusades actually got hijacked by Italian merchants and they sacked the Byzantine Empire. The Muslims did pillage but they actually restored cities they sacked. Forced conversion did not occur because they made non believers pay a tax, so if the general populace wasn't Muslim they would get a lot more money. Also Muslims at the time rarely attacked strangers as they preferred to trade Eastern products for Western raw materials, like stone, Gold, Silver. It may surprise you to know that at this point in time manufacturing was far more advanced in the East than in the West. »We still have our honor!
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 33	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:36:00 - [26] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Come on people it is so obviously Romans. The red/gold/white is a Roman color thing, religious inscriptions on weapons, conquering the galaxy and enslaving the conquered. Hell we even have an empress (used to be emperor). You can't get much more roman than the amarrians are. Minmatar = Africa in space Gallente = French/american in space (well the bad qualities x100) Caldari = Space japanese (80s business) EDIT: just look at my NPC corp name. Come on guys, this is like super obvious stuff here. Thats a better thought... Join my Corp HERE
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 33	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:40:00 - [27] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Actual notable Amarrian signing in here. OP, I must say that you are incorrect and your post is quite stupid. You are entitled to your opinion though so carry on. Is this how treat everyone? Calling them "stupid"? Because they think one of the Civlizations in a game resembles another Civlization in the past? Atleast i was brought up with manners... Join my Corp HERE
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5235	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:52:00 - [28] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Actual notable Amarrian signing in here. OP, I must say that you are incorrect and your post is quite stupid. You are entitled to your opinion though so carry on. Is this how treat everyone? Calling them "stupid"? Because they think one of the Civlizations in a game resembles another Civlization in the past? Atleast i was brought up with manners... Firstly you need to know this community is horrible, Aisha is pretty cool though. And no the Spartans do not resemble the Amarr, there are much better parallels you can draw with other classical era groups. The Amarr believe form = function, the term Spartan is also a modern descriptor for something that is plain and fuctional, not really suited for describing the Amarr. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Bunny Demon Scions of Athra 35	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:53:00 - [29] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Logi Bro wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I find it funny that CCP made the Amarr like Spatans with Lasers, although i'm still waiting for my Heavy Laser to go with my Heavy Suit. lolwut. If you describe something as Spartan, that means it is bare essentials. Amarr are all about flash and bling, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You're actually just 1800s Americans with lasers. 1800's British empire. And it's spelled "l-a-z-0-r-s". In England in spelled "l-a-s-e-r-s" and you should know (because you were educating others on history) that, unless you are Native American, Americans are actually British (who are roman, Viking etc. etc. but that stuff doesn't matter) so it's you who has spelt it wrong Donate isk to the guy above ^ (Or me, whichever you prefer)
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 421	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:56:00 - [30] - Quote Now French hate? Some of you god damn people man..... You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7620	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:00:00 - [31] - Quote WRONG! Spartans war not monotheistic, and certainly were not theocratic. Spartans were very much about functionality and NOT beauty, obsessed with military arts. Amarr are monotheistic, theocratic, very much about having a beautiful aesthetic , and obsessed with their god. Clearly no comparison is perfect, but this isn't even close. Amarr is more like a mix between the Roman Empire and Europore during the crusades. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
First Prophet Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1341	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:00:00 - [32] - Quote Clearly the Minmatar are the Spartans and the Amarr are the Persians. Inb4 THIS IS SPARTA [kicks True Adamananance] Users found this review helpful.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5235	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:02:00 - [33] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Clearly the Minmatar are the Spartans and the Amarr are the Persians. Inb4 THIS IS SPARTA [kicks True Adamananance] No the Minmatar aren't adequately represented by the Spartans because the Spartans were notorious users of slave labour and rigid closed social castes. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1331	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:02:00 - [34] - Quote Ugh no no no Amarrians: crusaders Gallente: French and Americans Minmatar: Space Vikings ( for the love a god they have a ship named ragnorok) Caldari: Industrial china( since they have a low value for human life) "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 387	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:06:00 - [35] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... Caldari have their own god called the Creator. Caldari religion is called Way of the Wind. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5235	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:08:00 - [36] - Quote medomai grey wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually it's more like knights with lasers, the Caldari are Spartans. Caldri don't believe in a God, Amarr does... Caldari have their own god called the Creator. Caldari religion is called Way of the Wind. That I believe is the Achura religion is it not, I'm not wholly familiar with it but the Caldari practice ancestor worship and spiritualism depending on which sect of the spiritualists you talk to. Yun Hee would be best to describe this, he knows every facet of the Caldari spiritualism. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
First Prophet Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1341	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:08:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: First Prophet wrote: Clearly the Minmatar are the Spartans and the Amarr are the Persians. Inb4 THIS IS SPARTA [kicks True Adamananance] No the Minmatar aren't adequately represented by the Spartans because the Spartans were notorious users of slave labour and rigid closed social castes. Nothing adequately represents the Minmatar. They beat slavery and doesn't afraid of anything. Users found this review helpful.
Rusty Shallows 585	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:16:00 - [38] - Quote Amarrians are closer to the Persians during one do their peaks. The Jove are definitely closer to the Spartans, at a least when measured by individual ship firepower. The comparisons fall apart some because at what could have been another Battle of Thermopaly the Jovians beat a much larger Amaran Armada that was sent to teach them a lesson. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Leonid Tybalt DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:19:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Caldari = Space japanese (80s business). Erm, far from all caldari have asian features (only the achura does, while the civire look more like europeans). It's more like Caldari = the axis forces of WW2 (Germany, Japan etc.) but with a more capitalistic spin than fascist... In Space Its not that the are represented in EVE by physical features but there are a great many aspects of an industrial Japanese society as well as colonial Europeans in America. The only reason you might have believed that about the Caldari is the recent period of state political control under Tibus Heth who while being rather.....unstable did indeed bring back the notions of meritocracy and corporate pride. Currently now the 8 CEO of the Megacorporations rule the State once again. No the reason I believe that is because I look at the obvious sources that ccp has taken inspiration from when creating the caldari in terms of aestethics, culture etc. But I like the fact that Caldari are a bunch of hypercaptalist space-***. I have a soft spot for the Naziesque and militant in games, which is why I love the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40.000 (although Amarr seem closer to them), the Helghast in Killzone etc. The old "american good guys/heroes"-trope is just sooo boring and uninteresting compared to hardcore space-***.


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