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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:36:00 -
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And are there not tutorials anymore? I know there is the tutorial windows but what happened to the interactive tutorials?
I walked him thru the basics as best as I could before I had to go to sleep. Spoke with him today and he played one match and said eff it... said someone kept following him and murder taxing him.... all I could do was laugh. I told him before hand this game isn't like cod...there is a huge learning curve for people who have never played an rpg style game with the pretty large skill systemits hard for some people to grasp what to doand what role to play. And then you have the whole pg and cpu which he was so confused about. My point iis where is the well educated interactive tutorials that explains everything in detail?
I've had 4 friends try this game and same result. They just need to be educated.
The best part of waking up,
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:46:00 -
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whats a tutorial? -CCP
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Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:54:00 -
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CCP wrote:Tutorial, how do you even pronounce that word?
Lack of content makes stuff broken...
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1744
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:55:00 -
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I don't get it, really... Eve has awesome in depth tutorials. But Dust has nothing.
Lack of content makes stuff broken...
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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Sephirian Fair
0uter.Heaven
166
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:57:00 -
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Friends don't let friends play Dust. >.>
Tried too many times, all the same result. :< Not bothering anymore until CCP wakes up. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:58:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I don't get it, really... Eve has awesome in depth tutorials. But Dust has nothing.
Eve didn't used to.
Nuff Said
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501st Headstrong
Dead Man's Game
103
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:00:00 -
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Even though it should because the game is so rough, I can see not having tutorials. You're a mercanery. You aren't supposed to be taught how to be one. You learn through killing others, learning from other mercs, and good ol' experience, which is what Dust already has. Not saying it's right, but I get where CCP is kinda coming from if that's there logic.
And no, I don't have 40 Million SP
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Sephirian Fair
0uter.Heaven
168
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:01:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:I don't get it, really... Eve has awesome in depth tutorials. But Dust has nothing. Eve didn't used to.
And that's an excuse? They've made them before and it is okay to ignore them now? No, because they have made proper tutorials before makes the lack of them now all the more damning. They know how to, they just didn't. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
445
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:04:00 -
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This has been expressed time and time again. CCP has hinted that they are working on it. I dont expect to see it in the next few months tho. U know, vehicle fixes, racial dropsuits, ect are already slated |
StaySqueezy
ZilchmobZ Industries
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:05:00 -
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My friends said the same thing. Best thing to do is show them how to get better weapons and teach them the maps. It takes a while to like it. I deleted it twice before actually getting into it now i love it. |
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xPr3d4t0rz WSG
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:32:00 -
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Eve's tutorials arent even the tip of the iceberg.
Most of what you learn you get into a corp to learn. player written guides, and real world knowledge will help your friend more then any amount of tutorials ever would. |
Bad Heal
PwNdCaKeSnRapLeSyrup
112
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:37:00 -
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Why bother? |
Cenex Langly
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:39:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I don't get it, really... Eve has awesome in depth tutorials. But Dust has nothing.
Eve has had 10 years to reiterate on their tutorials. You should have seen them in the first... 4-5 years lol. Horrendous, broken, non-informative, DUST-like.
I predict about 4 years before DUST develops reasonable tutorials.
Newb
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Demon Buddah
N3PH1L1M
106
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:42:00 -
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I've showed about three of my friends this game and I had the same problem. I was able to teach them how to play and what to do and not to do with the skill tree, but when they go against full proto players they get frustrated for getting killed all the time. I've told them to give it a few weeks before making a decision but they don't wanna take the time :/ CCP needs noob stuff... |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:43:00 -
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My brother wanted to play it when he watched me watch (yeah...creepy...) CEOPyrex and Cyrius Li Moody on youtube.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
447
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:45:00 -
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Demon Buddah wrote:I've showed about three of my friends this game and I had the same problem. I was able to teach them how to play and what to do and not to do with the skill tree, but when they go against full proto players they get frustrated for getting killed all the time. I've told them to give it a few weeks before making a decision but they don't wanna take the time :/ CCP needs noob stuff... Really they just need to extend the academy to 2M SP and give a full respec upon completion. They wont do it because the playerbase is already crap i imagine |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:49:00 -
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Whats all this 'Dust is complex and the skill system difficult to master" BS? Even if the only shooter he has played is COD then he knows how to set up a fitting, the only difference between that and here is fitting wise is the CPU PG restrictions which are not difficult to figure out if you know how to open a door without help and rather than having perks we have modules
As for the skill tree is some bare bones stuff really, I spend some points for a bonus to something, not hard to wrap your head around You would think that ever since games become more complex than "Go right and jump on the dude" people calling themselves gamers would be able to handle something as simple as the systems we have here
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
871
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Posted - 2013.12.23 20:52:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I don't get it, really... Eve has awesome in depth tutorials. But Dust has nothing. Reminds me of EVE the first two years. So in a 2015 we might have some nifty ones (made by the community hehe)
/c
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RED FARM
GOOD OL' B0YS
43
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Posted - 2013.12.23 21:29:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:And are there not tutorials anymore? I know there is the tutorial windows but what happened to the interactive tutorials?
I walked him thru the basics as best as I could before I had to go to sleep. Spoke with him today and he played one match and said eff it... said someone kept following him and murder taxing him.... all I could do was laugh. I told him before hand this game isn't like cod...there is a huge learning curve for people who have never played an rpg style game with the pretty large skill systemits hard for some people to grasp what to doand what role to play. And then you have the whole pg and cpu which he was so confused about. My point iis where is the well educated interactive tutorials that explains everything in detail?
I've had 4 friends try this game and same result. They just need to be educated.
Tell him he is free to add our chat channel. I can walk him thru thru whatever.
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:12:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Whats all this 'Dust is complex and the skill system difficult to master" BS? Even if the only shooter he has played is COD then he knows how to set up a fitting, the only difference between that and here is fitting wise is the CPU PG restrictions which are not difficult to figure out if you know how to open a door without help and rather than having perks we have modules
As for the skill tree is some bare bones stuff really, I spend some points for a bonus to something, not hard to wrap your head around You would think that ever since games become more complex than "Go right and jump on the dude" people calling themselves gamers would be able to handle something as simple as the systems we have here You are ignorant if u want to even try to compare cod and dust leveling system. Cod is an auto level game. Gain exp then gain a level then unlock ****.. here you have so many options and like I said before if someone has never played a rpg style game they won't WON'T get how **** works unless they took a whole day to understand everything. Which almost every person I've shown this game to just doesn't have the patients and get frustrated. .
The best part of waking up,
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