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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:38:00 -
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they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine
GǃIf you try to fail at something and fail is it a fail or a success?" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta/EVE/MAG Vet
Minja/Logi
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:39:00 -
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i agree.
those scrub lords who say isk doesn't balance can finally see how dumb they r.
well mainly increase price on modules and hulls. turrets r fine. O_o
Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry.
Msg my main BobThe843CakeMan
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NINJAPIRATEROBOTZOMBIE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:44:00 -
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One major issue is hardeners. The fact that you can get a militia hardener is ridiculous. These should be removed and will keep the real guys tanking and the wannabes looking for something else to exploit. Currently any wing nut can buy and fit out a militia tank and go god mode for under 80K. If these required expensive skills like 5x or 6x with requirements of armor or shield to 5 less people would be abusing them. 
"Go Ninja Go Ninja Go!"
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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:01:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine
I suggest this as a starting point:
M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price)
M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price)
Applying the same multiple gives us:
Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK
Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:25:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK
if u make it tht cost i expect to be god mode to everything but another tank.
Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry.
Msg my main BobThe843CakeMan
I ring for everyone. :D
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:28:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK
( Spits out tasty juice) that's waaay to much maybe 300-500k isk
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:28:00 -
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My opinion on opinions: They're like assholes. Everyone has one and a lot of them stink.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:57:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK ( Spits out tasty juice) that's waaay to much maybe 300-500k isk
Or alternatively if CCP really opened the Dust EVE link I could spend 5 Mill to outfit a decent Mining Barge, and produce my own HAV free of charge essentially.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:27:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK if u make it tht cost i expect to be god mode to everything but another tank.
Aside from other armour, an Abrams remains vulnerable to howitzers (nearest equivalent: large blaster/rail turrets), MLRSs (large missile turrets), IEDs (PEs/REs), and advanced anti-tank infantry weapons (forges and swarm launchers). So the 137mil ISK tanks should be vulnerable to everything they are presently vulnerable to, and also swarm launchers  .
I'm actually not joking. If the current tank/infantry imbalance is retained, on the basis that 'ISK is a balancing factor' or 'a tank is a massive metal killing machine that should strike fear into infantry', their price should reflect the actual price of a massive metal killing machine. A single maddy or gunnlogi should cost 137mil ISK or thereabouts. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:30:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK if u make it tht cost i expect to be god mode to everything but another tank. Aside from other armour, an Abrams remains vulnerable to howitzers (nearest equivalent: large blaster/rail turrets), MLRSs (large missile turrets), IEDs (PEs/REs), and advanced anti-tank infantry weapons (forges and swarm launchers). So the 137mil ISK tanks should be vulnerable to everything they are presently vulnerable to, and also swarm launchers . I'm actually not joking. If the current tank/infantry imbalance is retained, on the basis that 'ISK is a balancing factor' or 'a tank is a massive metal killing machine that should strike fear into infantry', their price should reflect the actual price of a massive metal killing machine. A single maddy or gunnlogi should cost 137mil ISK or thereabouts.
u r so. dumb.
u know how unbalanced tht would be. only the richest of corps could afford to use them in pc. u would never see one in a pub again. right now with tht price i couldn't even afford one. let's not even get started into proto tanks now.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:36:00 -
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But but but higher price means less jihad lav for me.
you racist! Stop interfering with my religious right!! 
Tickle my null-sack weapons guy.
Teabagging the universe one merc at a time
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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:37:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:
if u make it tht cost i expect to be god mode to everything but another tank.
Aside from other armour, an Abrams remains vulnerable to howitzers (nearest equivalent: large blaster/rail turrets), MLRSs (large missile turrets), IEDs (PEs/REs), and advanced anti-tank infantry weapons (forges and swarm launchers). So the 137mil ISK tanks should be vulnerable to everything they are presently vulnerable to, and also swarm launchers . I'm actually not joking. If the current tank/infantry imbalance is retained, on the basis that 'ISK is a balancing factor' or 'a tank is a massive metal killing machine that should strike fear into infantry', their price should reflect the actual price of a massive metal killing machine. A single maddy or gunnlogi should cost 137mil ISK or thereabouts. u r so. dumb.
A powerful argument, eloquently stated.
Quote:u know how unbalanced tht would be. only the richest of corps could afford to use them in pc. u would never see one in a pub again. right now with tht price i couldn't even afford one. let's not even get started into proto tanks now.
That's the price to pay for 'balancing by ISK' or having a 'fear-inducing killing machine'. If you don't like the price, maybe you should be asking for balancing by effectiveness instead. This would mean a 30%+ across-the-board buff for AV. |
SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.23 16:52:00 -
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The new contract for 680 is for 120 000 and the us army owns the design which is from refinements over 30 years of the m16. Theyused to pay colt 1300 and other countries pay more for new assault rifles. You can't buy one.
Javelin antitank missiles are 150k for launcher and 90k per shot. You need 2 people who can conly carry 2 missiles which might kill 1 tank. Howitzers? Good luck trying to hit 1 tank moving but the game equivalent is an orbital which is free for dust infantry and kills tanks. A heavy weapon like a mortar could be good but hard to kill tanks.
I agree tanks are too cheap. The price was right pre 1.7.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.23 16:56:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:they should be a bit more expensive
other than that, they're fine I suggest this as a starting point: M4A1 Carbine - $673 (2012 price) M1 Abrams MBT - $8,580,000 (2012 price) Applying the same multiple gives us: Advanced AR/CR/RR/ScR: 10,770 ISK Madrugar/Gunnlogi: 137,305,497 ISK
Because when you die and respawn in real life, you have to pay for the Carbine or the Tank out of your own pocket.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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