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Shijima Kuraimaru
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:01:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its not that rock is OP, its that nobody wants to play paper and everyone wants to play scizors and rock. My recollection of rock-paper-scissors is that paper is better at beating rock than rock is. Can you honestly say that AV is better at destroying a tank than another tank is? yes, because my paper comes in the form of a whole squad.... without diminishing its AI capabilities 6 man squad with AVs and fluxes with a SINGLE av guy in the mix and you NEVER have to worry about tanks again, not only that but you dont have to get into a tank if you dont want to, and you get to run on the gorund shooting people in the face all you want uninterupted by vehicles. thats what everyones bitching about wanting isnt it? to run around as infantry and not ahve to worry about a tank owning you unmolested? im literally handing the solution to everyone on a silver platter, a solution that bends to everyones collective will of "i dont want to run around hunting tanks all game" "i dont want to run a tank" "i want to destroy tanks easily" "i want to just run around shooting infantry" the solution is RUN IN A DAMN SQUAD WIITH A SINGLE AV GUY, the collective action of a squad with AV nades and fluxes alone is deadly to a tank, adding the AV guy in there is just the icing.
I do full time Forge. Militia HAVs driven by poor pilots, unlucky pilots, and pilots who made a bad choice go down just fine. But pilots with some actual common sense driving HAVs above militia grade are a different animal all together.
You, and your squad, have been wiped by HAVs on many occasions I'm sure. You're just glossing it over. Either that or you've been popped by too many locus grenades and want everybody to switch to AV grenades so you don't have to worry about locus spam.
As for your platter. You've mistaken a flimsy aluminum disposable bake tray for something of value.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:09:00 -
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I gave in. I set aside my forge for a single match and called in a HAV.
Being that I'm not very experienced running an HAV, I made over twenty kills. Sure I lost three HAVs, but I only lost them to other HAVs. One match wasn't a good baseline I admit, but I felt dirty and cheap for using those HAVs. It was much easier than I expected and it didn't cost me anywhere near what a single one of my proto forge fits cost.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
League of Infamy
441
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:09:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Who said anything about this being a solo game? I even asked you what's better at anti-tank, six tanks or six AV. Not only are you unable to give a straight answer to simple questions, you can't even read. You just went FR. first, im infantry dumbass. and 6 infantry are better at winning the game then 6 tanks, pure and simple. i added more to the other post as well to flesh out the point. your an idiot if you thank you going to kill proper tankers in your damage mod sica/soma i have my railtank of old, but im not pulling the thing out just to kill off tanks when im runnign as infantry. if im running in a tank its fromt he start of the tgame till the end. its not an AV solution you pull out in the middle of a game. also you wont kill me with your crappy militia tanks, so YOUR more effective against my tank as the 6 man squad then in your stupid tank. hell your more effective in your 6 man squad then if you were all to hop in 6 tanks vs my 1 fighting on a vetrens terms wont kill him, hes better then you at tanking. but your probably better at infantry so use an infantry based solution and you gain the advantage. Again you fail at reading comprehension. When did I ever say anything about you being non-infantry? But I really want us to get along. I like your spunk, in a totally hetero way. So let me assure you that you'll never see me in a tank of any description. I'm just pointing out that when the field is full of tanks but I don't even think about bringing out my proficiency 5 forge gun, something is seriously wrong with the game. I might get the tank, but it's just not worth putting down my AR when any scrub in a militia rail tank will do a better job than my forge. The game CAN be played by infantry, but it involves a lot of hiding in buildings, which makes it very boring. I've played three matches in the last two weeks; before that I capped every week for six months+. I'm sure you're having fun making every squad member give up their locus for AV nades, but in that case you'll all die quickly the moment you come in contact with a decent squad. You do realize core locus is a primary weapon for many PC-level players? If you're relying on your rifle you're giving yourself a 600HP disadvantage in most engagements. But I'm sure what you're doing works in pubs, anything does <3 if you cant solo a tank with a prof 5 forge gun no wonder your pissed off... that should be simple! thats not somethign wrong with the game, thats just you sucking at it. a scrub in a milita tank wont kill a good tanker.... even YOU have better odds with your forge then that. your last point is conflicting... as a PC team doesnt really give a **** about tanks because of how easy they are to destroy so they dont NEED AV nades..... i gave a simple and VERY effective solution with a low skill cap that just about any group of 6 can use to solve the problem, and instead of using it i get bitched at for even suggesting its possable. i dont even need the solution i presented, i solo the damn things when they get anoying both as infantry and in a tank. dont talk of PC level tactics if you cant solo a tank with a forge as THAT plus tanks are the current anti-tank platform at competitive levels. your obviously not competitive and so have zero insight into those tactics outside of getting stomped by them. core spam is another issue entirely. what more do you want other then a way to kill tanks without using a tank?
Yep. Your reading comprehension failed again. He didn't say he can't solo a HAV with his forge, he said it's easier with another HAV. Not everybody pulling down militia HAVs are unskilled scrubs.
You didn't state your idea as an option. You din't even state it as a possibility. You stated it as an absolute. Not everyone wants to use your playstyle.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
League of Infamy
441
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:12:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:I gave in. I set aside my forge for a single match and called in a HAV.
Being that I'm not very experienced running an HAV, I made over twenty kills. Sure I lost three HAVs, but I only lost them to other HAVs. One match wasn't a good baseline I admit, but I felt dirty and cheap for using those HAVs. It was much easier than I expected and it didn't cost me anywhere near what a single one of my proto forge fits cost. it wouldnt be the case if people would jsut start trying to kill the tanks instead of standing in open ground shooting at it with ARs
I don't think it was an issue of them not trying to kill me. I think it might have had something to do with me keeping infantry at range, prioritizing LAVs as targets, avoiding choke points, paying attention to my surroundings, and activating hardeners while performing a tactical retreat when I saw significant force being applied to my shields.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
League of Infamy
445
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Posted - 2013.12.23 10:59:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
what playstyle DO you want exactly?
its stated as an aboslute becuase it absolutly works.
why would i give an example of somethign that works effectivly as an "opinion" its not an opinion its a fact, it works , its easy, and its accesable to everyone.
also the EASYEST way is a prox trap, no effort involved. your confuseing easyest with quickest, not the same thing. as you arnt killing a decent tanker unless you are one yourself, making it suddenly not so easy.
never said that the method was the only method, ive made about 5 threads now each detailing completly different simple to use low SP required methods to easily dispose of tanks. all different playstyles.
what playstyle DO you want exactly? you ***** about me providing solutions but dont ever actually explain why your so damn angry that im doing so
I'm not angry. Never said I was. But you sure are.
You obviously have some RL issues that have you in a mental state that shakes your credibility. The ranting, raving, and continual childish insults do nothing to get people to consider your opinion. It does however make them think much less of you while they all point and laugh.
Find a good therapist to prescribe you some mood stabilizers and maybe the rational players will be able to take you seriously.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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