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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.23 03:49:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote: im not a tanker
i destroy tanks using this method with laughable ease
your a scrub defending a crtuch with no friends who refuses to run in a squad and use teamwork to acomplish tasks.
im using a LP basic PLC and a militia swarm launcher, with a few guys skilled into proxes/remotes to block retreat routs/set traps.
we basically ignore tanks now, if they come near us they die. a few tanks have givin us some trouble, but they susually back off to find easyer prey, most tanks just die instantly.
its a counter to this militia tank spam, sure good tankers will still be alive and kicking, but they will be off nowhere near your objective hiding. if they come back you simply AV them again, if their hardeners are on you simply take some damn cover for 10 seconds THEN AV him
Then why did I see you in a tank a few days ago?
Nope. All I saw was you inside a railgun tank. Along with the rest of your squad inside of a tank.
Basic PLC? MLT SL? You must have been going up against some mighty scrublords. Vids or it didn't happen.
Die instantly? I can has booster?
LOLOLOL. 10s? LOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I can easily butcher people well before they get to cover. And if I have my Missile launcher then I can easily kill them with splash damage.
Vids or it didn't happen. Your clearly lying.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:25:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:These types of threads show why this game will never get a good player base growing.
Too many cowards and scrubs. The only thing they ever consider is what is easiest, then do that.
No attempt for a challenge, just stomping if they can, nothing more.
That is why none of them have any heavies in their squads, because when the heavy was no good vs infantry, they avoided it like the plague. Now when they need someone in a fat suit with a forge, they have none.
So because they went the easy route with swarms, and now want to go the easy route with MLT tanks, it doesn't matter how you try and argue with them.
All they want is easy mode, however they need it. If it is difficult, they move on to something else, because trying is overrated to most of the people who play this game. Funny.
I invested into Swarm Launchers because I wasn't a heavy at the time. Why would a Scout/Logi/Assault spec into Forge Guns? You do realize that the FG's ability to OHK infantry from 200m away makes it far more "easymode" than Swarms right?
Not sure if that statement about people not having heavies in their squad is valid considering how my corp squad usually has 1-2 heavies.
Trying is overrated? Then why are you a tanker? Especially an Uprising 1.7 Tanker.
MLT Tanks are easymode. That also makes average to maxed out tanks godmode.
Might want to check your facts on some of those statements. Oh wait, you didn't use facts at all and just conjured up a statement based on your heavily biased, and non-credible perspective.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:28:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:I put up a thread to discuss the possibilities of an av suit with bonuses generated towards each races av weponary but it was soon forgotten and buried beneath all the QQ nerf tank threads. Kind of like every thread ever made by AV about V/AV balance.
Ironic isn't it?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:37:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote: ok dude you might be beyond help but ill give it a go.... vehicle users did not get a respect we had sp returned from skills that were REMOVED.. Giving av a specific suit fr=or each race that will give some sort of inherent bonus towards that races racial wepon will help the AV cause , it will also end any QQ from any tanker about the difference in cost of sp to run a fully fit complex tanc compaird to proto av... it would also let avers be a class into their own what is your problem with this ???
do you have any other sollutions other than buffing av outright ????? if not then jog on.
Nope, your a serious liar, and definitely beyond all help.
Vehicle users got a complete respec from the vehicle tree. All SP and ISK invested in all of the skillbooks in Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades, and Turret Operation were completely refunded, which is the definition of a respec.
I'd actually be perfectly fine with an AV suit, but it needs to have an ACTUAL bonus. I'd say a 3% bonus to AV weaponry is fair, and it also follows a design similar to the Minmatar Scout Suit bonus.
What SP? You don't even need to spend SP to not get killed by anything other than a tank. If your a pilot who gets killed by conventional AV in this build than you are either unlucky or a complete scrublord.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is correct
AV players can defo make out a living killing tanks and can do it every game aswell if they really want to, problem is they dont want to because they cant do it solo because they have the IQ of a teaspoon and teamwork is nonexistant
You say this as if tanking has teamwork as a prequisite.
We could AV. Or we could use the better AV, which is a MLT HAV.
Lets see here. 200k per suit with the guarrantee to die 3-4 times trying to kill the tank, while also being shredded and pounded by infantry at the same time.
OR
78k tank with a MLT Railgun that does more damage than any AV weapon in this game could possible hope to achice, theoretical invulnerability from infantry, and the guarantee to die 0-1 times.
Which one should I pick?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:18:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Are you by any chance a tanker?? ... It really seems that way ...
And I described my suit not what I do with it, I was highlighting the cost of a good AV suit compared to the cost of HAV He is. I confirmed that a few days ago when I saw him rolling around in a Gunnlogi.
He's also bull$#!tting you when he says that he uses AV to destroy tanks as well.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:34:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote: right ***** lets get this strait DONT you ever call me a liar you ******* piece of scum......you are nothing but the load that should have been swallowed you ******* moron how di you even manage to climb out of your ******* testtube you ******* freek .... right now thats out of the way ........vehicle sp was refunded because of a major overhaul of how the vehicle skill tree works as well as the removal of specific skills .....any skills that were left behind had different prerecs and functions or we would have Kept them or are you too stupid to understand that concept . im beginging to think you ether are an autistic piece of ******* rubber or just a lame troll.. now **** off .
I just looked up the definition of the word "liar". Yes you are a liar.
Please don't try to bull$#!t me, or anyone for that matter. Every single skill under the Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades, and Turret Operation was refunded, regardless of wether or not the skill currently exists.
I checked myself the second I finished downloading the 1.7 patch. all 7,195,000 SP into the vehicle related skills were refunded. Otherwise I'd still have a few million still into the Turret Operation.
The prerequisites of virtually all skills were changed. I, and everyone still received a complete respec from the skills that still remain unchanged in terms of skill perquisites.
I'll bet you 200mil ISK right now that every skill was refunded.
Autistic piece of (expletive) rubber? I don't have autism but I don't think it's polite to insult disabiled people is such matter.
Lame troll? Aside from obvious trolls or jokes in other threads I have yet to lie about anything, as all of my claims are based from facts that can easily be proven upon desire.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:38:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Atiim wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Are you by any chance a tanker?? ... It really seems that way ...
And I described my suit not what I do with it, I was highlighting the cost of a good AV suit compared to the cost of HAV He is. I confirmed that a few days ago when I saw him rolling around in a Gunnlogi. He's also bull$#!tting you when he says that he uses AV to destroy tanks as well. lol your just bad killing tanks with infantry AV is hilarious Even before Uprising 1.7 being AV was boring.
Bad about what?
Let me guess, you are incapable of arguing against my points so you resort to being childish and saying things such as "get gud"?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:44:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Requesting thread lock due to it devolving into apes throwing **** at each other instead of discussing infantry AV solutoins
you all should be ashamed of yoruselves Well it could have been a discussion, but then people started spreading lies around about things, and we can't allow that now can we?
You won't have much luck though. CCP will only lock the thread if they find that it violates the rules of the General Discussions section, which it has yet to do (by technicality)
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.23 18:47:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Requesting thread lock due to it devolving into apes throwing **** at each other instead of discussing infantry AV solutoins
you all should be ashamed of yoruselves What is there to discuss? The only solution here for infantry AV is to get gud scrub. None of the heavies in my corp have any problems dealing with tanks on their own. God forbid two of us are AVing in the same match cause no tank would survive. Now what about the people with Swarm Launchers or Plasma Cannons?
Oh wait, your probably another tanker who thinks that the FG should be the only viable AV weapon
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.23 19:11:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote: lol atiim. You have no grounds to talk as you're just another FOTM chaser. You can call yourself a tanker or infantry AV guy but truth is just because you can do something doesn't mean you're good at it. And by the way I've been dedicated AV/heavy since chromosome. Seriously, stop trying to act like you're some expert at everything when you're really just some punk kid who gets a couple of kills and thinks he's a professional. Swarm launchers had their time to shine when the range was ridiculously OP, now I agree the range should be buffed back up to 200m but fact remains you can still kill a tank with them. All the crybabys talking about how they cant kill tanks with just 2 volleys anymore, get over yourself. It was OP and now it's mostly balanced maybe instead of insta-locking and firing you could push it somewhere where you can swarm it better and wait for it's reppers/hardeners to wear off. It's not that hard but I guess it is when you're stupid.
FoTM Chaser? How So?
You can also kill a tank with a Flaylock Pistol or Assault MD. Just because you 'can' kill think tank doesn't mean that you will kill the tank.
You just lost all credibility with that statement. A tank can easily GTFO when they have both NOS and the ability to cycle 2 hardners.
Question. What is your AV weapon of choice? Forge Gun I assume?
No good tank fit has ever died within 2-3 volleys of my Swarm Launcher. Not even with Prof V and 3 complex damage mods
MassiveNine wrote: Seriously Atiim you're like that guy who thinks "oh I tried it once now I know everything there possibly is to ever know and anyone who says different is wrong." Here's a good idea, pull your head out of your ass and smell the roses sweetheart cause you have a long way to go before you're a professional at anything. I've seen you play. Between the lack luster gun game, hissy fits, and horrible suit loadouts it's hard to imagine where you even got the idea you know what you're talking about.
Hissy fits? I only remember raging twice when playing DUST, and I wasn't in a squad so I honestly have no idea what your talking about. Fittings? Do you even know my fittings?
I don't claim to be the best at anything, in fact in multiple threads I have said that I'm not the best at anything. However you don't have to be the very best at everything to form an educated opinion on something.
"Gun Game". My gun game seems to do just fine considering how I win most of the gunfights I get into.
Say what you want. Doesn't make what I'm saying any less true.
P.S. Do I know you? I don't remember playing with you before. Should I know you?
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