DUST Search - newberries allowed to play fw yay or nay

One Eyed King wrote:

I was under the understanding that FW was a chance for players to experience something that has a little more meaning than traditional battles, with PC being the place where "elites" can go if they want to.

Secondly, if public matches are where new players should play, why is there so much pub/protostomping?

As it stands, FW discourages protostomping because of the poor LP payouts and the non existant isk payouts. If a new player were looking for somewhere to go and find fewer proto suits, it seems that FW would be the best option at this point.

Until there is PvE or another game mode that uses only militia fits or has a reasonable upward limit of SP (which I think most people would agree is not the case for the academy as it seems to low), I don't see why you should complain about newberries playing in FW.

If you think your factionaly blueberries aren't up to snuff, maybe take some time and give them a few pointers, or politely suggest places like Dust University who would gladly help.

Or not, and you could continue being a douche. Its up to you.


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Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2416	Posted - 2013.12.23 02:44:00 - [1] - Quote No. They hardly understand what they are doing in battle during academy. So why allow them access into a serious competitive game mode? It's hurting towards the serious players and souring the taste in the newbies mouth even more. I say set some point where the option becomes available, after they are seasoned just a little bit. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2418	Posted - 2013.12.23 02:59:00 - [2] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Well just look at Caldari. They get battered consistently. My corp took a squad / squad n half into a match fighting for Caldari and we were literally the only players in the match fighting. We fought valiantly but ultimately we were battered. P.S Sp has nothing to do with it, limiting opponents will not help either. It needs to be stated that team work and co-ordination is needed in FW. Besides, the teams are totally stacked against the Caldari and to a lesser extent, the Amarr as far as ~I am aware. Make the loyalty point stores actually have nice shiny items in there that everyone wants and you might see some fair fighting. It so frustrating. You need to go into the Cal FW with at least two squads (it seems if we try to q-sync three, we get thrown in different matches) to make any sort of impact. And don't let them get "socked in the mouths" real hard. They will retreat to the redline. Sit there and snipe. Now the map looks like its got freckles because you see red dots all over the place hunting separately since they have no respect for the team. To the teamwork thing, I don't know how many times me and squadmates try speaking on the comms. Hell, we are normally on team chat, hoping someone catches on. They don't. They play it like its freaking COD. I think SP matters here because the caliber of players you see here will be even more proto'd out than a pub match. A slaughter in FW hurts more because its almost like a PC battle. You don't make ISK. LP really means squat to a new player who is broke already. LOL you might want to re-read my post and make sure you like it, Just edited. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2420	Posted - 2013.12.23 04:34:00 - [3] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I was under the understanding that FW was a chance for players to experience something that has a little more meaning than traditional battles, with PC being the place where "elites" can go if they want to. Secondly, if public matches are where new players should play, why is there so much pub/protostomping? As it stands, FW discourages protostomping because of the poor LP payouts and the non existant isk payouts. If a new player were looking for somewhere to go and find fewer proto suits, it seems that FW would be the best option at this point. Until there is PvE or another game mode that uses only militia fits or has a reasonable upward limit of SP (which I think most people would agree is not the case for the academy as it seems to low), I don't see why you should complain about newberries playing in FW. If you think your factionaly blueberries aren't up to snuff, maybe take some time and give them a few pointers, or politely suggest places like Dust University who would gladly help. Or not, and you could continue being a douche. Its up to you. Yes I agree, it is an alternative to pub matches. But what jars the picture is that you have many serious corps from PC taking to FW. So it kind of stomps all over that theory. Also, you have people who take that game mode just as seriously as a PC match. Then you have a noob who is being absolutely casual in their approach which is affecting the team's strategy. I don't think anybody is being a douche by just expressing the truth. I rather have the truth instead of "if you don't have something nice to say..." expression being thrown out there. The reality of the situation is that the majority of blueberries wouldn't take your advice even if you spoon fed it to them. People don't like losing most of the time. So when you're facing an uphill battle and you got a guy saying "we need to take the CRU by Baker in order to have a chance", its often met with the same sentiment you have about some guys who stated their opinions...that they're being a douche. Hopefully we can work this out somehow though. I play for Caldari and this thread speaks in volumes because of what I experienced. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]