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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:28:00 -
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As some players may have noticed.
Male clones are rectangular and feature no aero-dynamic features.
Female clones are curvy and appear sleek and fast.
My request:
Give male clones a passive boost in armor/shields,and melee damage,depending on race.
Give female clones a passive boost in speed/movement and harder to detect by scanning,depending on race.
Based on:histories greatest assassins were all female. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8954
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:33:00 -
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Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
31
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim.
Wat? |
Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
7
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:45:00 -
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No. Character race/gender shouldn't matter.
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Summ Dude
Altyr Initiative
85
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Posted - 2013.12.22 04:11:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that the future spaceland Iron Man suits everyone's running around in pretty much completely negate any physical attributes the wearer might have. You don't run faster because you spent a lot of time training to physically run faster, it's because you improved the capabilities of your dropsuit. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8958
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:06:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim. Wat?
Gender doesn't matter in EVE either. Why should it in Dust? Bloodlines actually play a bigger role though in dictating how fast you learn combat, industry, and exploration related skill trees, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in Dust when half the people here don't care about lore. I would like to see a bit more complexity like this, but it's most likely never going to happen, especially since we probably won't get industry and exploration skill trees.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1321
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Posted - 2013.12.22 07:16:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim.
The nerd in me wants to scream in your ears till they bleed, but I'll settle for telling you that in Skyrim gender does not give you attributes but the race you pick does.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
870
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Posted - 2013.12.22 07:47:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim.
Skyrim doesn't have this, either.
Research fail, or fail assumption? Either way, learn to fact check.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Mobius Wyvern
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
4200
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Posted - 2013.12.22 08:08:00 -
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Meee One wrote:As some players may have noticed.
Male clones are rectangular and feature no aero-dynamic features.
Female clones are curvy and appear sleek and fast.
My request:
Give male clones a passive boost in armor/shields,and melee damage,depending on race.
Give female clones a passive boost in speed/movement and harder to detect by scanning,depending on race.
Based on:histories greatest assassins were all female.
You're probably not familiar with Starsiege: Tribes, but that game was the poster child for what happens when you have differences of character mechanics between genders in a shooter.
The only people who played as males were the people too new to know better. Trying to be more "realistic" isn't worth the massive imbalance that would likely result from such an idea.
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
10
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Posted - 2013.12.22 08:46:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim. The nerd in me wants to scream in your ears till they bleed, but I'll settle for telling you that in Skyrim gender does not give you attributes but the race you pick does.
Gender made a difference in Oblivion. Males were slight better at combat, and Females were slightly better at magic. He may not have gotten the message that they *mostly* removed that in Skyrim though.
*Males do run faster in though, because they are taller, and height determines speed in game. Therefore Male High Elves are the fastest characters, and are used for speedruns because of this.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1131
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Posted - 2013.12.22 08:48:00 -
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Meee One wrote:
Based on:histories greatest assassins were all female.
If this is true it is only beause they slept with their targets then killed them when they were unaware. Since there is no seduction in Dust I'm going to say no.
Fun > Realism
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7576
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Posted - 2013.12.22 09:00:00 -
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This is stupid for reasons already explained by others, and my friend says you're likely a troll (probably true). How exactly does gender effect a dropsuit shields, armor, or stealth (signature profile)? those things are electronic functions of the suit, and independent of biology.
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1800
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Posted - 2013.12.22 15:05:00 -
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More nerd sexism....
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
546
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Posted - 2013.12.22 15:30:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Meee One wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim. Wat? Gender doesn't matter in EVE either. Why should it in Dust? Bloodlines actually play a bigger role though in dictating how fast you learn combat, industry, and exploration related skill trees, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in Dust when half the people here don't care about lore. I would like to see a bit more complexity like this, but it's most likely never going to happen, especially since we probably won't get industry and exploration skill trees.
I see your point and I actually think it would be kinda nest from the RPG standpoint if character creation mattered a little more. I think you could take gender, race, and bloodline and provide advantages and disadvantages to make it a bit deeper.
To be clear I'm not talking a big sweeping changes just small perks. |
Demel Derpovsky
Derringer Defenses
39
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Posted - 2013.12.22 17:13:00 -
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Meee One wrote:As some players may have noticed.
Male clones are rectangular and feature no aero-dynamic features.
Female clones are curvy and appear sleek and fast.
My request:
Give male clones a passive boost in armor/shields,and melee damage,depending on race.
Give female clones a passive boost in speed/movement and harder to detect by scanning,depending on race.
Based on:histories greatest assassins were all female.
Well, you're getting raged out, but it's okay.
This is pretty....unlikely to happen. Think about it: We see women as limber and sleek figures, but a woman's body with enough exercise can bench 200 pounds just as easily as a man who has done the same exercise.
ergo, no....no gender stats. |
Stephen Seneca
State Patriots
Templis De Novo
29
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:56:00 -
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I just really need Male Chauvinism lvl V, my female toon is looking into skilling up Lesbian Feminism. She already has Equal Pay V so its all good.
For the State!
Keep your stick on the ice and get the pucks in deep, eh.
Rail Rifles. All. The. Way!
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
625
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Posted - 2013.12.23 00:43:00 -
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Wow, I gotta say, the reasoning for this seems sound. Even the dropsuit design seems to lend itself to these kind of bonuses and in fact are more aerodynamic and bulkier respectively. Perhaps this idea has more thought than some of you are giving it. Just because a female character in Eve doesn't get piloting bonuses for a ship (not really male or female but rather quite unisex) doesn't mean a quite literally that a different sex dropsuit shouldn't. Shape plays quite a role in contemporary stealth techniques when designing stealth technology. On a side note, it would be good to tie the bonus to the Dropsuit Command skill.
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Stephen Seneca
State Patriots
Templis De Novo
29
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:12:00 -
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In all honesty the bonuses should be negligible at best.
A few years ago Eve took away the race attributes and this idea seems to be a bit of a stretch in the wrong direction.
I would prefer CCP to focus on making more varieties of suits and apply these bonus types to the suits as well as new modules.
I like the bonuses but not the application.
For the State!
Keep your stick on the ice and get the pucks in deep, eh.
Rail Rifles. All. The. Way!
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castba
Penguin's March
267
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:
Gender doesn't matter in EVE either. Why should it in Dust? Bloodlines actually play a bigger role though in dictating how fast you learn combat, industry, and exploration related skill trees, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in Dust when half the people here don't care about lore. I would like to see a bit more complexity like this, but it's most likely never going to happen, especially since we probably won't get industry and exploration skill trees.
Lore would matter more if it was more prominent and had more of an inpact in Dust.
CCP should be ramming Eve lore down our throats at every opportunity IMO |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6009
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:27:00 -
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Sorry. I don't see this working out at all for anything related to New Eden. Eve Online use to have racial attributes a long time ago, but then CCP realized this created an imbalance in diversity and population distribution. Too many players trained up for Caldari because that race had bonuses for training skills faster. As a result, CCP removed that and now all races are purely there for role playing. Population diversity and distribution has improved since then.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1405
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:56:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Meee One wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sorry, but this isn't Skyrim. Wat? Gender doesn't matter in EVE either. Why should it in Dust? Bloodlines actually play a bigger role though in dictating how fast you learn combat, industry, and exploration related skill trees, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in Dust when half the people here don't care about lore. I would like to see a bit more complexity like this, but it's most likely never going to happen, especially since we probably won't get industry and exploration skill trees.
Not like many Eve players care about the lore either. |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:00:00 -
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Martyr Saboteur wrote:No. Character race/gender shouldn't matter.
race matters ... that seems a bit wrong, doesn't it?
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Stephen Seneca
State Patriots
Templis De Novo
29
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:06:00 -
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How does race matter in eve or dust?
For the State!
Keep your stick on the ice and get the pucks in deep, eh.
Rail Rifles. All. The. Way!
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2013.12.23 02:13:00 -
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No.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Talos Vagheitan
308
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Posted - 2013.12.23 05:40:00 -
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Gender respec!
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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NDA Approved
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.12.23 06:49:00 -
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Bonus to female patience with this thread.
Imma in ur base, browsin' docs on docs. Trust me, I have clearance.
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
15
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:04:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:Martyr Saboteur wrote:No. Character race/gender shouldn't matter. race matters ... that seems a bit wrong, doesn't it?
No it doesn't . The only thing it affects are:
1. Profile Picture
2. Starter Corp.
3. Merc Quarters
4. Role Play
It affects no character stats. Its only side affects are purely cosmetic.
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQTSTALLION... I AM THE STALLION
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Meee One
Clones Of The Damned
Zero-Day
42
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Posted - 2013.12.24 09:31:00 -
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It's kinda sad that all i did was point out the facts and got rage and the title 'sexist'.
Look at the different genders yourselves and tell me females don't look curvy and aerodynamic,as well as lighter and harder to detect.(they do,especially caldari) And males look slower,stronger and more durable.
I'm not being 'sexist' by suggesting bonuses based on obvious facts, if you want to rage at someone rage at the people who made the curvy clone. |
Stephen Seneca
State Patriots
Templis CALSF
30
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Posted - 2013.12.25 01:35:00 -
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Im not calling you sexist or anything nasty. I simply do not agree with you. To say a human female is harder to detect or more aerodynamic is kind of silly.
Not to put down females or anything but you do not see co-ed contact sports for a reason. Speaking only in regards to physical tendencies, the male typically dominates the female.
For the State!
Keep your stick on the ice and get the pucks in deep, eh.
Rail Rifles. All. The. Way!
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