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Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2013.12.22 00:30:00 - [31] - Quote Let's talk about the shotgun ads turning speed first.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3315	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:00:00 - [32] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Mass drivers are ridiculas as they are against scouts. Nerf splash radius and increase damage, Maybe. Increase damage of splash and splash radius...hell no. There's so much fail in this post I don't know where to start. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1283	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:03:00 - [33] - Quote No, Hell no I had to deal with that awful weapon and how much it was spammed, I rather not see that noob tube come back.. Let it die like the flaylock and I will be happy. The evil hidden in the name
Cenex Langly 0uter.Heaven 515	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:06:00 - [34] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Cosgar wrote: Bout time someone complained about the HMG. That means it's working finally. Wish someone would cry about lasers and mass drivers again... It's a grenade launcher, it must be high alpha/radius. Give the original variant 400 damage and a spalash radius of 7.25m (about 10m at lv5 md skill) keep the rof. The assault variant gets 300 damage at 16m radius with skills The breach gets 800 damage in a 5m radius They don't need a buff, everything else needs to be toned down. If you buff them any more people will complain. They do enough damage. The problem is you can never get that 2nd shot off to finish anything when you're getting mowed down in a fraction of a second by the Assault "rifles" (I mean all of the variants of auto fire projectile weapons) Newb
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1750	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:08:00 - [35] - Quote calvin b wrote: No, Hell no I had to deal with that awful weapon and how much it was spammed, I rather not see that noob tube come back.. Let it die like the flaylock and I will be happy. Hail AR 514, hail king AR. GO AR or go home. This is part of the reason that the game is going nowhere. Even though TTK is extremely low, and AR/hitscan weapons have been OP forever and are the major contributor to low TTK, you still have people like this. The AR is, and always has been, the most spammed weapon in the game.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 807	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:22:00 - [36] - Quote Mass Drivers are not UP. However the Breach variants could use some work. I feel they should function as another means of AV weaponry rather than a means of suppressive fire against infantry: the other variants already do that well.
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 30	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:33:00 - [37] - Quote Dude, no offense but were you drunk when using the Mass Driver? I can kill anyone with the Splash Damage (10 metres) & it doesn't need a buff, you can buff it yourself by putting Complex Damage Mods on then it's OP... Join my Corp HERE
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 112	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:36:00 - [38] - Quote Mass Driver is OP. Either give it high damage low ROF or low damage high ROF. You can't have both.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1406	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:38:00 - [39] - Quote The Mass Driver is fine how it is! "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 807	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:44:00 - [40] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Mass Driver is OP. Either give it high damage low ROF or low damage high ROF. You can't have both. No. It's fine just the way it is. If you're saying its OP... Then I feel sorry for you.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2396	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:46:00 - [41] - Quote 800HP Base Damage? Dudenk,l. Holy Fudgenipples!!! MY HMG WORKS!!! IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!! \o/
Cosgar ParagonX 8952	Posted - 2013.12.22 01:58:00 - [42] - Quote I'd be happy if they gave it the old Chromosome damage values since HP and plates got a buff in Uprising. Bringing back the lingering smoke effect would be good too, extra ammo capacity might be pushing it. Doesn't need much, just a little more of a bite to scare the **** out of people like it should. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 90	Posted - 2013.12.22 02:21:00 - [43] - Quote Ladies The Mass Driver is fine. The rifles kill too fast in general. The time it takes you to get a 2nd or 3rd shot you would be killed easily. Lower the TTK and then the MD will find its place again. The only thing i would say needs buff is the breach mass driver. It has the stats, boost the direct damage by to 500 base standard and add a higher rate of fire and we'd get a weapon more powerful than swarms but takes skill to use. Also for those who are crying about splash damage shouldn't kill infantry, WTF are you smoking? Standing near an explosion your going to get shrapnel and the high pressure force will kill you. Even if you are in a dropsuit, the human body is still made partly of water. Imagine your blood, liver, heart, brain. being under a severe shock-wave of pressure.....interesting to say the least. If people really think you can just bomb headshots on moving infantry with a grenade launcher like cake then i will give that sir or madam all the isk in my account and hand them my world champion mass driver title to them , if they can record 2-3 matches in a random game with every MD kill being a direct hit( currently got 40Mill ). If not, then that poor sap just wasted SP going into mass drivers if he thought that's how you use it. Is it possible yes, but the MD kills on splash, the direct damage is for vehicles and poor saps unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.(Usually unwary heavy suits.) Alternatively if you want to balance the MD in this low TTK environment that i would request the rate of fire of mass drivers across the board be boosted to at least the rate of the assault. Then make the assault a fully automatic grenade launcher with 200rpm and 12 round grenade drum Trust in the Rust! 7-Time Matar Mass Driver World Champion Combat Rifle is for Combat!
Cosgar ParagonX 8953	Posted - 2013.12.22 02:46:00 - [44] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Cosgar just loves his easy as ** to use MD that got easy as kills. Now it can't compete with direct damage weapons at dealing direct damage, who knew! If there is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANY buff, at all, even +1 damage, I demand that they remove the effect it has on your aim where it slaps your reticule in some direction. If you can't aim, that's fine, but at least don't ruin mine. You just hate everything that kills you. Anyone that plays with me knows I don't run around bunny hopping and trying to use it like a shotgun. I'm supporting my squad from the rear, bombarding areas trying to push the enemy back. If I got as many kills as I do kill assists, I'd probably be getting more hatemail than bullets in my face. A terror weapon that doesn't terrorize isn't a terror weapon. I'd gladly trade the knockback effect for more smoke, and plenty of people on either side of the weapon agree that the ghetto suppression effect is silly. You can still pray and spray with your automatic sniper, I just want the make you go "Oh **!" and have to run away. Think about it, when has anyone cried about the MD after 1.4. 1.2-1.3 doesn't count because aiming-hit detection was broken, making the MD the only viable meta by default. Before that, it was bugged and pre-nerfed. I don't even know why I'm trying to justify the damn thing when half the people here probably spam Core locus grenades. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
J0LLY R0G3R Tickle My Null-Sac 256	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:00:00 - [45] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Cosgar wrote: Bout time someone complained about the HMG. That means it's working finally. Wish someone would cry about lasers and mass drivers again... It's a grenade launcher, it must be high alpha/radius. Give the original variant 400 damage and a spalash radius of 7.25m (about 10m at lv5 md skill) keep the rof. The assault variant gets 300 damage at 16m radius with skills The breach gets 800 damage in a 5m radius My scout says no. XD XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness 72	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:56:00 - [46] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: The mass driver is perfectly balanced. The issue is that the Rifles are all ridiculously overpowered. The solution is not to buff the Mass Driver, but to nerf the Rifles. Buffing the MD will only add to the low TTK issue. As a 24/7 mass driver user, I say NO to a buff. I got to agree with this, the mass driver hasn't changed since the last patch but the new rifles make it almost useless to go with the MD.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3434	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:57:00 - [47] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Cosgar wrote: Bout time someone complained about the HMG. That means it's working finally. Wish someone would cry about lasers and mass drivers again... It's a grenade launcher, it must be high alpha/radius. Give the original variant 400 damage and a spalash radius of 7.25m (about 10m at lv5 md skill) keep the rof. The assault variant gets 300 damage at 16m radius with skills The breach gets 800 damage in a 5m radius HOW ABOUT: REMOVE AIM ASSIST. Insta MD buff/Rifle nerf. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 351	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:39:00 - [48] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: HOW ABOUT: REMOVE AIM ASSIST. Insta MD buff/Rifle nerf. This man gets my vote.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 29	Posted - 2013.12.22 12:12:00 - [49] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Cosgar wrote: Bout time someone complained about the HMG. That means it's working finally. Wish someone would cry about lasers and mass drivers again... It's a grenade launcher, it must be high alpha/radius. Give the original variant 400 damage and a spalash radius of 7.25m (about 10m at lv5 md skill) keep the rof. The assault variant gets 300 damage at 16m radius with skills The breach gets 800 damage in a 5m radius HOW ABOUT: REMOVE AIM ASSIST. Insta MD buff/Rifle nerf. Yeah this right here. But the breach MD still needs a buff.
NOAMIzzzzz BIG BAD W0LVES 78	Posted - 2013.12.22 12:48:00 - [50] - Quote Looool

RAMB0 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.12.22 14:18:00 - [51] - Quote Everyone complains about TTK being too short but everyone wants their weapons to get a buff
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 352	Posted - 2013.12.22 16:46:00 - [52] - Quote RAMB0 wrote: Everyone complains about TTK being too short but everyone wants their weapons to get a buff Yeah, because TTK is a rifle exclusive problem.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3448	Posted - 2013.12.22 17:55:00 - [53] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nitrobeacon wrote: Cosgar wrote: Bout time someone complained about the HMG. That means it's working finally. Wish someone would cry about lasers and mass drivers again... It's a grenade launcher, it must be high alpha/radius. Give the original variant 400 damage and a spalash radius of 7.25m (about 10m at lv5 md skill) keep the rof. The assault variant gets 300 damage at 16m radius with skills The breach gets 800 damage in a 5m radius HOW ABOUT: REMOVE AIM ASSIST. Insta MD buff/Rifle nerf. Yeah this right here. But the breach MD still needs a buff. The Breach MD AND the Breach Shotgun could use a small rate of fire increase nxt to a damage increase. The Breach MD could use 100% efficiency vs VEHICLE ARMOR as an ALT AV weapon with chance to damage infantry. (If its not ALREADY like this) AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3775	Posted - 2013.12.22 17:58:00 - [54] - Quote Dual tanking is the source of most of DUST problems.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3448	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:02:00 - [55] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Dual tanking is the source of most of DUST problems. i'd say AA is. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:10:00 - [56] - Quote no i dont want to read another 2 months of nerf mass driver threads again they ripped the carpet from under developement adding aim assist. you don't make a game a then try to work it around aim assist after you've already balance passed it. you begin developing with aim assist and then build the balance from there. this was done in the former and therefore it's never gonna balance out- you dont build a house first and then somehow try to fit a foundation onto it. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3313	Posted - 2013.12.22 18:14:00 - [57] - Quote I personally think the projectile should be faster. Minmatar weapons should fit the form of either an autocannon or artillery. As MDs are obviously artillery, they need the superior range that artillery is meant to have. We used to have a time machine
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 332	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:48:00 - [58] - Quote I think most people are seeing the folly in buffing the non rifle weapons. Please provide feedback in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129162&find=unread We don't need any more buffs until the Rifles are brought back in line.


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