peg and Pearson will be here too.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, though I might not say they need to be removed all together, but I definitely get the sentiment.

Many of these maps they can roll so far back that you can't even use a dropship packed with remote explosives to kill them. They're too far back to kill with anything but a railgun and an orbital at the same time.

Try to kill them with a railgun, they recall. Try to kill them with an orbital, they roll backwards.

The fact that anyone can call in a railgun installation in the redline with two damage amps for 60k is definitely a big part of the problem.

I didn't know that the only part of flying dropships was calling them in.

Did you know that flying around at the flight ceiling means you might as well not be in the game?

You know this thread is just full of people that are complaining about anyone and anything that kills them.

You will die. Adapt. My goodness.

I'm at my whits end right now. I'm so happy I'm getting some new games for christmas, I need a break from this ****. I only enjoy flying now, and red line railguns just make it to too stressful and not enjoyable at all.

Even if you jump through the crazy amount of hoops required to kill them, they just call in another because you can afford 3-4 damage stacked sica's per match before losing ISK. Is it so much to ask for them to risk their ISK like I have to? If all else fails, you can recall three times over in the time it would take the dropship to kill your tank. .

I like how the tankers come out of the woodwork, foaming at the mouth that we want to be invincible, when all we're asking for is the CHANCE TO FIGHT BACK.

You ******* noobs are the ones sitting in the redline killable only by your own stupidity. How ******* hard is it to roll backwards? What a ******* skill.

You guys ******* suck at DUST and should be ashamed to have it downloaded to your systems

i do agree railguns are insane - but why expend so much energy balancing when CCP could be creating more content

I try not to damn certain game tactics or weapons as broken unless it is desperate. But rail gun tanks are just so completely broken it has me wondering if they were properly tested.

They have Huge alpha, Huge Hp, Huge Range, Huge elevation and they can be immune in the redline. Not just in the redline but they can shoot an objective from 300m in the redline. This is monstrously stupid. I cannot move in any map, or any game mode without a rail tank or three that are up to 300 meters into the redline 1 or 2 shotting my dropship. It is absolutely broken. I have even been killed at the maximum flight ceiling. Exactly what is a flying vehicles advantage if a tank can kill it anywhere in the entire sky?

They are not in need of slight balance or tweaking but plain broken to the point that they should not be in the game with the maps that we have.

I am making a video to make my point but at this stage CCP. They need to go. Now. Until they can be made to work with current map size and until you fix the broken and unbalanced redline they have to go. SImply remove the rail turret until we can make a weapon that powerful work within the limits of fair balance,

I only make threads like this if something is game breakingly bad. And I don't like to. But this is a special case. Did you know that at 250m from an objective, from a flat surface a rail tank can shoot a dropship 238 meters up?! Tanks rule the ground and the sky. At 238 meters my dropship is useless. I have to sit, in complete exposure evey single game to these distant, redline tanks. I can't use skill or tactics to avoid them. They see me all the time from complete safety. The tank can cover any area a dropship can operate in from a single spot up to 540m away (proven tested distance)

So here it is CCP. Take out that turret. Now. Until we can balance it. Its unfair and it breaks air/ground balance. CCP, you need to speak to us pilots about this. Not part-timers; but us full on dropship guys. Please engage us. In private, behind NDAs or whatever you feel is best but we really need to talk with you. This stuff needs fixing. ASAP.

IMO the problems with rails are only partially due to the railgun
My suggestions:
Limit Railgun range to 300-350m
Change missile range to 200m, since they arent viable at their current max range because they are inaccurate
Limit tanks to 1 dmg mod
nerf dmg mods to 15-20%

Damage mods and redline immunity are the biggest issues. People dont talk about dmg mods being OP but that is a huge part of the problem. +57% dmg is a lot for a mlt tank...
people are stacking dmg mods on a cheap tank for 2 shot kills

When you do the math, dmg mods are just stupid and broken. Personally, id like to see them removed from both tanks and infantry. Because they amplify imbalances as much as dmg

MLT rail with 1 dmg mod:
1885 dmg 16k isk

MLT rail with 2 dmg mods
2276 dmg 20k isk

Proto rail
1885 dmg 242k isk

Proto rail, 3 dmg mods
3300 dmg, 254k isk