DUST Search - Headshots

Kasira Vorrikesh wrote:

Andius Fidelitas wrote:

Lore wise, it makes sense. Given the might these weapons wield, it makes sense that once the shields and armor are compromised, it's going to shred the skull in such a violent manner that a nano hive cannot even reconstruct.

Although... it does raise the lore question, what about the "mind/soul" scanning hardware that usually insures transfer of conscious to the next body? Wouldn't it be compromised as well, kind killing permanently the merc like the rest of mere mortals? With capsuleers it makes sense, the "egg" protects the hardware itself (and scan occurring at the slightest crack of the egg), allowing just enough time for that instant scan before the explosion fries the capsuleer itself. But in the case of a merc, how does that work out?

Yah I know, a bit of a Eve nerd. But it is curious how the soul transfer occurs with mercs despite the head shots.

Explosive deaths in Dust would be as bad or worse than headshots, I'd think. I know the bodies don't render as being blown apart, but in reality they would be.

If I had to say at exactly what point the transfer happens, it's when the interior body-glove (underneath the armor) is penetrated. So with a headshot we'd have to assume that when the bullet enters the inner-helmet lining, it triggers the same response as when the EVE capsule is breached. Somewhere in the intervening fractions of a second from passing through the helmet to penetrating the skull and finally entering the brain, the transfer most likely occurs.

Could a scan happen that fast? Probably not, but chalk it up to sci-fi magic.


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Enkidu Camuel Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 145	Posted - 2013.12.21 02:48:00 - [1] - Quote I've seen this a lot of times before, I pop the head of guy, other guy comes with a needle, the guy with the needle ress the guy with the popped head... and I'm like So, I think there's a problem, unless the nanites are powerful enough to reconstruct the skull and brain matter. Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: Not quite sure on this. I think I've seen a fair number of people get a res after I headshot them. I think the threshold for whether you can be resuscitated or not is based on how much damage you suffer over your full HP value; headshots are often fatal, but not 100% of the time. Example: you're in a suit with 250 HP. An NT-511 headshots you for, what, ~300 damage? You should be able to be res'd after that. A Charge headshots you for ~800 damage in the same suit? No chance. Along the same lines, a Logi with ~700 HP could probably get a res after the Charge headshot. Headshots are supossed to be instant kills, no matter how much EHP you have. Major DUST fact.
Enkidu Camuel Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 146	Posted - 2013.12.21 04:48:00 - [2] - Quote Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: Andius Fidelitas wrote: Lore wise, it makes sense. Given the might these weapons wield, it makes sense that once the shields and armor are compromised, it's going to shred the skull in such a violent manner that a nano hive cannot even reconstruct. Although... it does raise the lore question, what about the "mind/soul" scanning hardware that usually insures transfer of conscious to the next body? Wouldn't it be compromised as well, kind killing permanently the merc like the rest of mere mortals? With capsuleers it makes sense, the "egg" protects the hardware itself (and scan occurring at the slightest crack of the egg), allowing just enough time for that instant scan before the explosion fries the capsuleer itself. But in the case of a merc, how does that work out? Yah I know, a bit of a Eve nerd. But it is curious how the soul transfer occurs with mercs despite the head shots. Explosive deaths in Dust would be as bad or worse than headshots, I'd think. I know the bodies don't render as being blown apart, but in reality they would be. If I had to say at exactly what point the transfer happens, it's when the interior body-glove (underneath the armor) is penetrated. So with a headshot we'd have to assume that when the bullet enters the inner-helmet lining, it triggers the same response as when the EVE capsule is breached. Somewhere in the intervening fractions of a second from passing through the helmet to penetrating the skull and finally entering the brain, the transfer most likely occurs. Could a scan happen that fast? Probably not, but chalk it up to sci-fi magic. Well it can happen, the scan is like the flash of a camera, and the flashes are faster than the bullets, meaning that when the bullet breaches the helmet of a clone, while it's destroying layer after layer of the armor the scan process will take the picture of your brain, killing you instantly and moving "you" to another clone. The system is very sensitive at preserving the life of a clone, even the smallest and insignificant fracture in the hull of an EVE capsule will trigger the scan process in less than a second. Major DUST fact.