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Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:26:00 -
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So I was thinking, since we now have all of the rifles, shouldn't the bonuses for the assault dropsuits change?
What if the bonuses changed completely, so that Gallente assaults for example, doesn't have a useless recharge skill.
It would be better if the "first" bonus was towards their racial weapon's efficacy, so Minmatar assaults get a faster ROF on their CR, or something like that.
Then the second bonus to goes to EHP/regen which depending on race, varies; So Gallente assaults get bonuses to armor while amarr assaults get bonuses to both shield and armor, but 50/50 on both sides.
Basically make assault suit bonuses better, instead of silly 5% recharge per level; that some suits don't even find useful. C'mon even scout suits have cool bonuses. |
Horizen Kenpachi
Kenpachi's Castle
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:33:00 -
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All will bow to hmg
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis De Novo
338
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:58:00 -
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Hmg hmg hmg hmg hmg oh how I've missed you
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
6539
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:00:00 -
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Yes. +1. Shield bonuses on Gallente assaults is stupid.
They're not the only class with silly bonuses though. Sentinel bonus - reducing feedback damage. Really?
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2718
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:05:00 -
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YES the Assault suits need better bonuses.
There was never a logi problem, there was just a crap Assault problem.
I think a race specific bonus should be limited to the Amarr though. Otherwise it'd just be undermining the customisation aspect of the game.
No.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2362
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:09:00 -
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My minmatar assault could sure use something. It's very confused at what it's actually supposed to be good at.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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KayDidYue
Mercenaries On Duty
20
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:11:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:So I was thinking, since we now have all of the rifles, shouldn't the bonuses for the assault dropsuits change?
What if the bonuses changed completely, so that Gallente assaults for example, doesn't have a useless recharge skill.
It would be better if the "first" bonus was towards their racial weapon's efficacy, so Minmatar assaults get a faster ROF on their CR, or something like that.
Then the second bonus to goes to EHP/regen which depending on race, varies; So Gallente assaults get bonuses to armor while amarr assaults get bonuses to both shield and armor, but 50/50 on both sides.
Basically make assault suit bonuses better, instead of silly 5% recharge per level; that some suits don't even find useful. C'mon even scout suits have cool bonuses.
So bogus!
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1308
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:11:00 -
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What Amarr shield tanks? We better get a bonus to armor plates.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Tectonica Fusionus
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:17:00 -
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Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1282
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:21:00 -
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Personally I believe that your suit shouldn't have an effect tied to racial parity.
Just because Im in a Minmatar Suit doesn't mean I should have to run Minmatar weapons, thats the whole point of choice. So while minmatar weaponry prefers closer ranges, I may personally prefer longer range engagements.
However I don't see a problem with non-combat related perks in say a racial upgrade tree, like spare ammo capacity, fitting reductions, resupply rates. Stuff that won't disadvantage you for not having them, but will still be a boon if you do.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2362
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:23:00 -
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Tectonica Fusionus wrote:Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level
Nobody knows what to do with the minmatar suit because nobody knows what it's supposed to be good at. :(
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1282
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:26:00 -
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Tectonica Fusionus wrote:Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level
No, then you end up where we were with the cal logi who got like a 10% bonus to extenders. Don't relate them to health.
Caldari: -2% shield recharge delay per level Gallante: +5% Armour Repair per level Minmatar: +2% Speed per level Amarr: -2% armour stacking penalty per level
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Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
147
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:27:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Tectonica Fusionus wrote:Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level Nobody knows what to do with the minmatar suit because nobody knows what it's supposed to be good at. :( It's the fastest assault, as well as having nearly as much shields as a caldari assault, im guessing bonus to overall damage since the purpose is hit and run |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
149
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:34:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Tectonica Fusionus wrote:Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level No, then you end up where we were with the cal logi who got like a 10% bonus to extenders. Don't relate them to health. Caldari: -2% shield recharge delay per level Gallante: +5% Armour Repair per level Minmatar: +2% Speed per level Amarr: -2% armour stacking penalty per level Cal logies had a 25% bonus to shield extender efficacy before (at lv5), i can tell you that 10% bonus on an assault ck.0 is near worthless, it increases the module hp by 6, which is 24 with 4 modules.
So what, if you can survive 1 extra projectile of a 2400 rpm hmg? i say increase it to 5% extender (per level, sorry) efficacy for cal assault, they have less high slots anyways, one slot is bound to be used for recharges as well |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1282
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:37:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Tectonica Fusionus wrote:Caldari: 2% more shields per level Gallente: 2% reduction to armor stacking penalty per level Minmatar: 2% (I dunno...) per level Amarr: 2% more armor per level Nobody knows what to do with the minmatar suit because nobody knows what it's supposed to be good at. :( It's the fastest assault, as well as having nearly as much shields as a caldari assault, im guessing bonus to overall damage since the purpose is hit and run
No minmatar suit spefic bonus should increase its speed, or if you prefer to both shield and armour repping, minmatar like the amarians are more of dual tanked suit, its base speed for armour without loss of manoeuvrability, passives reps imply being in armour often.
While use of shields allow quick regeneration of health. Its one of the more versatile suits.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
540
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:41:00 -
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I think the assault perks should be more offensive oriented...the Amarr and Minmatar are on the right track, Gallente perk tracks well with efficient use of high end gear. Only really outlier is Caldari...they might need the most significant update.
Recommendation: 1) Amarr heat reduction bonus stays 2) Minmatar ammo increase for sidearms is upgraded to allow it to work for the combat rifle and HMG 3) Gallente keeps the hybrid weapon resource reduction perk 4) Caldari should get a decrease in spool time for rail weapons or another weapon related perk. |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
377
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:54:00 -
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The basic Assault bonus should be the Logi's passive armor rep. Only THEN should CCP focus on the racial bonuses.
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