DUST Search - Let's talk about recalling

IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

What doesn't seem reasonable is complaining about the recall. You are capable of doing that yourself. Maybe folks don't understand me, but I see the recall issue as a minor problem.

People don't mind talking about this when they want the kill...that is until the situation arrives when they need to recall the tank, but now its hampered due to changes in the recall timer. Now its back to "recall timer needs to be shortened".

I believe this is relative small if not non existent problem. It's like sometimes folks just look for things to change just because what they experienced worked against them. So they want to change it. I think that's wrong to judge it from that perspective.

For the record, I don't even tank. I barely fly dropships. I'm seeing an issue here from an objective standpoint as far as I'm concerned.

Michael Arck wrote:

And where did this all of sudden come from? Now folks have a problem with people recalling the tank in 5 seconds?

Perhaps it's suddenly appeared because we've suddenly got new vehicles etc. that everyone's been waiting for for months.

I dunno, and I take your point that if someone recalls their vehicle, you've got them off the field one way or another - maybe you shouldn't care that you didn't get them off the field by killing them. But at zero risk to them, so they just wash, rinse, repeat. If they actually had the appropriate level of risk, the fact you bested them might make them think twice about doing it again, and then your victory is bigger....and appropriate.


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Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2366	Posted - 2013.12.21 10:32:00 - [1] - Quote lol let's not talk about this. I think the time is just fine for it. I think if we did change this, it will only present us with more problems. If it isn't broke... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2366	Posted - 2013.12.21 11:03:00 - [2] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Michael Arck wrote: lol let's not talk about this. I think the time is just fine for it. I think if we did change this, it will only present us with more problems. If it isn't broke... But it is broke not only can whisk away a vehicle in such a short time. You can call it back about 20secs later with new Hardeners, Restocked Ammo and Full Health Which first off completlly nullifys the whole point of having amnunition. Bypasses the 'waves of oppurtunity' by getting faster cooldown And repairs your tank. All this and all you need 5 seconds to be home and dry. So far the best option is to force THAT fit to be unavailable for a longer period of time, longer than cooldowns on the vehicle. You should have to physically wait for the benifits you get from recalling. I don't get it. What's the problem with the recall, really? It's like this guy I know who would walk the floors, checking servers for problems. He would see some acute error, investigate it, then tinker around and then we had a mess load of problems on our hands. My point is, why are we looking for problems, really? The tank recall is fine for everybody. You need to get your vehicle out in a hurry. Sometimes I feel the Dust community just looks for problems, blow them up and then get things reconfigured. Most of the time, they are not happy with the results. Just like the scanning issue. People praised WPs for scanning. Said it was great. Then boom, now folks are hating on scanners. People talked about tanks. Went on and on about em. Now folks say "its Tank 514" and complain about the surplus of em. The recall is fine. Stop looking for problems that don't exist. LOL, when did recalling vehicles ever become a problem?? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2366	Posted - 2013.12.21 11:10:00 - [3] - Quote What doesn't seem reasonable is complaining about the recall. You are capable of doing that yourself. Maybe folks don't understand me, but I see the recall issue as a minor problem. People don't mind talking about this when they want the kill...that is until the situation arrives when they need to recall the tank, but now its hampered due to changes in the recall timer. Now its back to "recall timer needs to be shortened". I believe this is relative small if not non existent problem. It's like sometimes folks just look for things to change just because what they experienced worked against them. So they want to change it. I think that's wrong to judge it from that perspective. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2366	Posted - 2013.12.21 11:22:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What doesn't seem reasonable is complaining about the recall. You are capable of doing that yourself. Maybe folks don't understand me, but I see the recall issue as a minor problem. People don't mind talking about this when they want the kill...that is until the situation arrives when they need to recall the tank, but now its hampered due to changes in the recall timer. Now its back to "recall timer needs to be shortened". I believe this is relative small if not non existent problem. It's like sometimes folks just look for things to change just because what they experienced worked against them. So they want to change it. I think that's wrong to judge it from that perspective. So, it's fine because everyone can do it? Everyone could use the old TAR. Did that make it okay? It's not a non-existent problem. If you're going to lose a tank fight, you can jump out and recall it while still under fire in some cases - and in others drive around a corner for a little more time to do so. You're not getting what I'm saying. Not everything should be tampered with. And where did this all of sudden come from? Now folks have a problem with people recalling the tank in 5 seconds? What is going on here? Are we talking about balance for the killer or balance for the tanker? It's a part of the game. If I see a guy recall his tank, that's just as fine for me as me blowing up the tank. It's off the field and timer set that prevents him from calling in another is enough to change or continue the tide of war. Can't say it enough, you can't go around looking for problems with everything. Especially when I play heavy roles and I want to jump out my car in a hotspot and recall my vehicle quickly to assist my team. It has its merits. You're just thinking on the side of "I can't kill him because he recalled his tank under 5 seconds". I wholeheartedly believe in tough spots, you appreciate the 5 second recall. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2367	Posted - 2013.12.21 11:47:00 - [5] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What doesn't seem reasonable is complaining about the recall. You are capable of doing that yourself. Maybe folks don't understand me, but I see the recall issue as a minor problem. People don't mind talking about this when they want the kill...that is until the situation arrives when they need to recall the tank, but now its hampered due to changes in the recall timer. Now its back to "recall timer needs to be shortened". I believe this is relative small if not non existent problem. It's like sometimes folks just look for things to change just because what they experienced worked against them. So they want to change it. I think that's wrong to judge it from that perspective. For the record, I don't even tank. I barely fly dropships. I'm seeing an issue here from an objective standpoint as far as I'm concerned. Michael Arck wrote: And where did this all of sudden come from? Now folks have a problem with people recalling the tank in 5 seconds? Perhaps it's suddenly appeared because we've suddenly got new vehicles etc. that everyone's been waiting for for months. I dunno, and I take your point that if someone recalls their vehicle, you've got them off the field one way or another - maybe you shouldn't care that you didn't get them off the field by killing them. But at zero risk to them, so they just wash, rinse, repeat. If they actually had the appropriate level of risk, the fact you bested them might make them think twice about doing it again, and then your victory is bigger....and appropriate. My points is Dust 514 witch hunts can be more harmful than beneficial. Some act as if they haven't been in situations where they appreciated the 5 second recall themselves. I don't know, I don't have that mentality of "they gotta lose it for bringing it out!! why is he getting away with that??". A victory is a victory. Smh. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]