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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1289
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:48:00 -
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^^
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
269
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:49:00 -
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I feel f**king left out because CCP didn't include a Minmatar Heavy Suit to go with it!
Fix the verisimilitude!
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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
1266
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:49:00 -
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About time.
Now they need to fix the scouts.
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
594
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:50:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:^^
Can barley kill stuff past 30m and the amarr heavy suit sucks... Im repping more armor than shields...
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Stinker Butt
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:51:00 -
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Two thumbs up! but it doesn't help against a tank.
Tanks for Listening...
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
140
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:51:00 -
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I don't run a heavy, but rather assault/logi, so my impressions are second-hand.
The people who run heavies say it's much better this build, and when I run into a heavy in CQC, I generally die -- as I should.
I'm thinking they did a good job with it -- and, like others, I'm anxious for the new heavy suits and a similar balancing of the scout class. |
Gorra Snell
Applied Replicants
329
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:05:00 -
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Love it. In my HMG fit, I've done a few suicide runs into mobs, and I'm taking out 3 or 4 with me. That didn't work before.
Running non-heavy suits, I'm getting killed if I try to take them one-on-one from anything other than long range.
RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
808
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:07:00 -
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Happy for the heavy bros
Hurts scouts though :l
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
680
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:11:00 -
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Feels friken fantastic! Could use a little more range IMO though.
Now all we need is six more heavy weapon variants (three AI three AV) and the other three race's suits and we'd be good.
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Heals Vaginas
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:11:00 -
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I can no longer just run head on at theese fat bastards, seems good. |
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1307
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:14:00 -
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I'm get kinda scared when I hear the screeches of tires and then that automatic sound.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:20:00 -
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Can still kill a heavy one on one in my proto suit so I'm okay with it |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
671
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:24:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Can still kill a heavy one on one in my proto suit so I'm okay with it
looks like you just haven't run into a good heavy
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
137
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:31:00 -
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I did my 1st heavy fit with LP hmg... I killed 10 reds before I died... If there were logibro with me, nothing could stop me. Hmg buff is good and I'm back with my callogi support.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
224
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:31:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Can still kill a heavy one on one in my proto suit so I'm okay with it looks like you just haven't run into a good heavy
Or maybe he uses Core Locus Grenades.
I hate those things lol. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1260
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:45:00 -
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I like to run all suits to at least Standard level, Heavy included, but I am by no means specced into them.
However, the HMG now seems to shread through anything within 30 meters on so, but I get ripped apart at anything beyond that. The spread is good, and while you still need to track to land the shots, I feel like its working much more like it was intended.
It has turned the heavy into a very effective point-defense role as well as provided great DPS role when assaulting CQC areas but making them limited out in the open.
All and all I feel it is a perfect fix and should really not be messed with further. Good job CCP!
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4678
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:03:00 -
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Only took countless threads, and a couple videos for CCP to do anything. Wonder what they need to improve scouts? A goat needs to be sacrificed?
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
687
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:04:00 -
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Burst HMG is a beast, almost like a shotgun with a 20m+ range |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
3470
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:05:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Only took countless threads, and a couple videos for CCP to do anything. Wonder what they need to improve scouts? A goat needs to be sacrificed?
lol. I believe so 
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1261
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:08:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Only took countless threads, and a couple videos for CCP to do anything. Wonder what they need to improve scouts? A goat needs to be sacrificed? lol. I believe so
Do it with a Nova Knife.
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Sephirian Fair
0uter.Heaven
163
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:10:00 -
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Well... When I see a Heavy, I no longer try to get in closer, so that has to count for something. XD Knowing that their dispersion mechanics were broken meant the best place to fight a heavy was right next to him. But old habits die hard... I've had a few really stupid deaths during the heat of combat where I've done that since the fix. >.<" Oh well. |
Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:39:00 -
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theres still a lot of RR heavy, but HMG look great now, had to change my diapers a few time after CQC against fatty since the fix
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
1272
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Posted - 2013.12.20 20:14:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Only took countless threads, and a couple videos for CCP to do anything. Wonder what they need to improve scouts? A goat needs to be sacrificed? lol. I believe so Do it with a Nova Knife.
Sacrifice CCP Nova Knife
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Mortedeamor
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1034
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Posted - 2013.12.20 20:27:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:D legendary hero wrote:^^ Can barley kill stuff past 30m and the amarr heavy suit sucks... Im repping more armor than shields...
or perhaps you suck because ive killed people exceeding 50m |
D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1290
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:19:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:D legendary hero wrote:^^ Can barley kill stuff past 30m and the amarr heavy suit sucks... Im repping more armor than shields... or perhaps you suck because ive killed people exceeding 50m
no that is a lie. I have proficiency lvl 5 with HMG. It does not kill people out to 50m, unless they are not moving and they are wearing a militia frame.
If you use a freedom HMG, with damage mods you might cause harm to a medium frame, but stil.
Even though some stuff got fixed with the HMG it still isnt really a threat even in CQC.
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça
I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1290
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:21:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:D legendary hero wrote:^^ Can barley kill stuff past 30m and the amarr heavy suit sucks... Im repping more armor than shields...
pretty much. Just use a RR. or SCr
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça
I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1290
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:23:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Only took countless threads, and a couple videos for CCP to do anything. Wonder what they need to improve scouts? A goat needs to be sacrificed?
what do you think?
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1379
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:28:00 -
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i sprinted around a corner the other day to avoid incoming railgun fire, and there was an enemy heavy, surrounded by a pile of corpses.
It made my heart sing for joy to see that heavy standing triumphant. And then i died. =)
I support SP rollover.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1290
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:32:00 -
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IDK, to me the HMG still feels off. The SMG, and CR work as intended and do perfectly fine. But, the HMG doesnt seem to be a better SMG, with CR range....
Because basically, the HMG is supposed to be a bigger SMG, with CR, but the same dispersion as it has now and the limitations of the suit. Quite frankly its still pretty poor.
- The spooling should make it way more accurate
- it should have the same damage per shot as the SMG.
- should be effective out to 50m
this would help it suppress infantry like its supposed too. The heavy isnt supposed to be very moble. but he should be able to slow advances on his squad and objectives
Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça
I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1381
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Posted - 2013.12.21 19:23:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:IDK, to me the HMG still feels off. The SMG, and CR work as intended and do perfectly fine. But, the HMG doesnt seem to be a better SMG, with CR range.... Because basically, the HMG is supposed to be a bigger SMG, with CR, but the same dispersion as it has now and the limitations of the suit. Quite frankly its still pretty poor.
- The spooling should make it way more accurate
- it should have the same damage per shot as the SMG.
- should be effective out to 50m
this would help it suppress infantry like its supposed too. The heavy isnt supposed to be very moble. but he should be able to slow advances on his squad and objectives
Definitely agree with spooling and range. Damage i'm neutral on until we have full racial lineups and are doing our final balancing pass.
The one thing i really want to see is that when you're getting hit by HMG rounds you know about it: impacts from those rounds should smack scouts around and seriously rattle mediums. Other heavies should just get a little more shake.
I support SP rollover.
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