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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:52:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
But i can do that with BPO suits
Get the drop on anyone and they are toast
You don't even need to get the drop on them. They often have IQ of -5 and make the dumbest tactical moves possible. It's not hard to outsmart them. -5 thats pretty bad I wonder where that puts AV then, -100?
I was gonna add another zero.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:02:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So a tank cannot have a turret which kills infantry effectively but yet infantry can have a weapon like the FG which can easily kill tanks/infantry effectively???
Double standards much?
Frankly its not my fault if everyone is assault and im in a tank, i pick the tank for the situation and blaster has served me well and if im getting high kill counts then whos fault is it? The FG is not nearly as good at killing infantry as blaster turrets are. Got plenty of high kill counts with both weapons But still ignoring the point you get the FG to kills lots of tanks but i cant have a turret which can kill lots of infantry Blaster vs Tank > FG vs Tank Blaster vs Infantry > FG vs Infantry Your logic falls apart here
You don't have any logic. You forced the changes on CCP. CCP answered, and once again, made tanks their own best counter.
But that's not fair, because infantry is supposed to do everything, with no other roles available, right?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:06:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So a tank cannot have a turret which kills infantry effectively but yet infantry can have a weapon like the FG which can easily kill tanks/infantry effectively???
Double standards much?
Frankly its not my fault if everyone is assault and im in a tank, i pick the tank for the situation and blaster has served me well and if im getting high kill counts then whos fault is it? You have thousands of HP, resistances, and hardneners. You can kill infantry waaaaay faster than they can kill you, and that is IF they can kill you at all considering how fast you can escape. Infantry can only hurt you if they make significant sacrifices in their anti-infantry capabilities, which makes themselves further vulnerable. You can pretend using a blaster tank is the same kind of tradeoff and say blasters are totally ineffective against railgun and missile tanks, but I've seen blaster tanks come out on top in a tank fight (my brother is a tanker). Don't pretend its somehow equivalent. No one is saying tanks should never be able to effectively kill infantry, but ever thought there is such a thing as too effective?
Your brother is a tanker, so do you hate him? He's using a play style you obviously don't understand, and obviously hate, and will never take the time to try to understand.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:16:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Just give it a much wider dispersion past close range, so it's more of a suppression weapon vs infantry, yet still has enough accuracy to be used on vehicles.
Think like the HMG, but bigger That could be the autocannon tbh True enough. My only complaint with tanks, generally speaking, is militia tanks. Swarms and plasma cannons need more buffs still to make them useful AV options, but standard tanks are actually almost right where they need to be. Blasters are just a bit too good at what they do, which is kill both infantry and vehicles. They either need a reasonable decrease in effectiveness for one of those, or a slight decrease for both. I think the same can be said of small missiles for dropships, but that's for another thread.
So basically, you still want vehicles on the nerf train.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Just give it a much wider dispersion past close range, so it's more of a suppression weapon vs infantry, yet still has enough accuracy to be used on vehicles.
Think like the HMG, but bigger That could be the autocannon tbh True enough. My only complaint with tanks, generally speaking, is militia tanks. Swarms and plasma cannons need more buffs still to make them useful AV options, but standard tanks are actually almost right where they need to be. Blasters are just a bit too good at what they do, which is kill both infantry and vehicles. They either need a reasonable decrease in effectiveness for one of those, or a slight decrease for both. I think the same can be said of small missiles for dropships, but that's for another thread. So basically, you still want vehicles on the nerf train. No, I want a balanced game. Unlike you, I actually look at the bigger picture, and not just what helps me personally Shocking, I know.
LOL Infantry doesn't do that.
You want AV buffed, and tanks nerfed in some way. How is that any different?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:LOL Infantry doesn't do that.
You want AV buffed, and tanks nerfed in some way. How is that any different? I know you think that it's just your incredible skills making you do well, but the game actually is still in a process of being balanced. While I know it's difficult for you to grasp, things still have some work left. Swarms are useless vs anything but bad or unlucky vehicle operators, plasma cannons are still a joke, and as this thread is attempting to discuss, blasters are too good at being "all around" options, and should either be good at one thing or slightly less good at both. Now please, the adults are talking.
Except blaster doesn't have enough range. Derrr
You obviously have never tried tanking.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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