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CharCharOdell
1776
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:27:00 -
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Remove militia hardeners. Boom. Now people need to invest SP to spam tanks. It'll either create a new generation of tankers who invest 10+ mil SP and should do well with tanks or it'll stop mlt tank spam because a tank with no hardeners is easily killable by even mlt AV
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
1034
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:28:00 -
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nice idea. this could atually work, along side a reduction to the number of tanks on one team.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1253
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:32:00 -
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I think a general reduction in all militia modules would be appropriate. I understand they suffer from increased resource cost and whatnot, but even with reduced slots and resources, they're able to put up pretty strong defenses.
I mean personally I'm a specced tanker so I enjoy all the militia vehicles, lots of targets, but I know the infantry guys are suffering pretty badly because of it.
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CharCharOdell
1776
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:35:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:nice idea. this could atually work, along side a reduction to the number of tanks on one team.
No, I don't want to be limited because other people use vehicles. It's annoying not be able to help team kill tanks because people are spamming lavs
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Sgt Buttscratch
1216
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:36:00 -
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sell them is just chassis also, so people even have to fit reps, catch the real n00bs out
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1119
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:36:00 -
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Meh
MLT gear is there to give you a basic idea of how the play style works without SP investment at the cost of overall efficiency.
Without hardners, you've removed a central part of their fitting options and drasticly changed their gameplay.
It's not much different from removing MLT tank mods for infantry or damps in the case of scouts.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2286
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:37:00 -
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So other pilots are still trying to justify god mode by using the MLT HAVs as a scapegoat?
Such a shame really.
Holy Fudgenipples!!!
MY HMG WORKS!!! IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1241
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:39:00 -
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What about 2 highs and 1 low for Caldari MLT HAVS and 2 Lows and 1 High for Galente Militia HAVs,
That would actually give the devs something to work with in future tiers.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
244
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:40:00 -
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My alts use milita damage amps for +30% damage!
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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Green Living
Scions of Athra
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:40:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I think a general reduction in all militia modules would be appropriate. I understand they suffer from increased resource cost and whatnot, but even with reduced slots and resources, they're able to put up pretty strong defenses.
I mean personally I'm a specced tanker so I enjoy all the militia vehicles, lots of targets, but I know the infantry guys are suffering pretty badly because of it.
A reasonable tanker! Bravo sir. |
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
337
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:42:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Remove militia hardeners. Boom. Now people need to invest SP to spam tanks. It'll either create a new generation of tankers who invest 10+ mil SP and should do well with tanks or it'll stop mlt tank spam because a tank with no hardeners is easily killable by even mlt AV
Less than 100k SP for basic hardeners.
To overwhelm easily 5-10mil SP AV
Falling a little short there brosef |
Eurydice Itzhak
State Patriots
Templis De Novo
263
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:43:00 -
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The OP idea wouldn't be enough.
There's just something horribly wrong with the whole idea of mlt giving 100% the same power as complex. The only difference being uptime.
and in Charchars original idea it would only require investing into hardeners.Less than a million SP I believe. |
R F Gyro
Clones 4u
880
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:47:00 -
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I'm not in any way arguing against nerfing militia tanks. They are clearly too strong.
But its not just militia tanks, its all of them.
One way to spend your ISK & SP (tanks) is better than all the others (AV, assault, logi, scout, heavy - you name it).
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CharCharOdell
1781
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:51:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:I'm not in any way arguing against nerfing militia tanks. They are clearly too strong.
But its not just militia tanks, its all of them.
One way to spend your ISK & SP (tanks) is better than all the others (AV, assault, logi, scout, heavy - you name it).
I disagree. I put 10 mil into tanks so I should perform very well just like anything else. We need to allow more tankers to become good tankers so every battle is 4 v 4 not 5 v 1 tanks
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
337
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:53:00 -
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Hardeners should have increased duration and and damage reduction per tier, they should not be as useful or last as long at MLT level and they should not be able to produce a perma-hardened or almost perma-hardened tank. |
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