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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:32:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Every time you explain the lengths that infantry goes through to kill your tank, while infantry know how easily your tank kills them, you undermine your own position. I put 10+ mil in my tank. It better stomp. But these mlt tanks are too good for being 0 sp and 80k isk I put 4-6+ mil into AV.
Should I "stomp"
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:34:00 -
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So basically your upset because people finally realized that they shouldn't be forced to use tactics to defeat you when you yourself aren't forced to in any way, condition, shape, or form?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:The art of Tanking was lost after Uprising 1.7 There was an art?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 01:52:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Atiim wrote:So basically your upset because people finally realized that they shouldn't be forced to use tactics to defeat you when you yourself aren't forced to in any way, condition, shape, or form? so you're going back on what you said prior to 1.7? Apparently you were fine with AV not needing teamwork and now that tanks do well on their own, they're OP...but AV wasn't. As expected.
Vehicles are OP simply because they require teamwork to destroy, yet require no teamwork to operate whatsoever.
I was perfectly fine with AV not needing teamwork because HAVs also didn't need teamwork either.
Going back on what I said? How? What I said was "AV shouldn't be required to use teamwork because HAVs aren't". Heck, I even made a thread about why it's a bad idea.
I also said that if AV should require teamwork, then HAVs should as well. Which is far from what we have as of current.
Please tell me Char. Why should AV be forced to use teamwork, when HAVs aren't?
Why should I be able to hop into a tank as a single unit and require 3-6 people to destroy me?
Why should 1>3?
Please also refrain from spew BS about vehicles requiring teamwork. As with me spending 7 months piloting tanks and having an end total of around 7mil invested (pre 1.7), you cannot tell me that they require teamwork, as they clearly don't.
But I'd love to see you try.... I'd even pay AUR for the delight.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:18:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote: You don't tank, obviously.
Also, I always run with a team. Most tanks do. 1 tank isn't an easy target...unless it's me ;)
Funny, and yet still expected. The last person who said I don't tank (Anmol Singh) ended up having to swallow a bucket of "I told you so" when I squaded up with him.
How does a tank require teamwork? I can (and have) done just as well running my tank solo as I have with a squad. Heck, sometimes I I even perform BETTER when I'm running solo. (Then again, I always do better solo)
Now tell me. What part of that are you required to do?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:37:00 -
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Harpyja wrote: See my above post.
Sure, we can run solo, but so can the common infantryman. But of course, we like to use teamwork to make us better off. So does the common infantryman when they team up with a heavy, a logi, and an assault.
You are stubborn when you keep failing to realize the good tankers use teamwork. I will always have at least one small turret on my tank for a squad member, or even a blueberry, because it helps with anti-infantry duties. Sure some blueberries are annoying, but I've recently only been coming across decent gunners. I always prefer to be in a squad, and I always rely on them to give me enemy positions.
I've taken out many vehicles because I had my squad members point out their position and movement so I could get the jump on them from behind. I've even had cases where I knew I was going to lose a battle against a Madrugar if it was only me, but I had the squad commander drop an OB on the Madrugar while we were engaged. I was basically using myself as a lure to bait the Madrugar into a trap. In fact, I was an expensive lure because I was with my Falchion, so of course he'd bite, only to get barraged by proto missiles and bombarded from orbit.
You like to, but are you required to? No. So should AV be required to? No.
Stubborn? How? By calling pilot's BS when they try to BS people about how vehicles (bar Dropships) require teamwork? I believe you are stubborn in the sense that none of that stuff you nor anyone else on this entire forum (since the time of my first post) have ever once even came close to mentioning how any vehicle in this game (bar Dropships) require any form of anything that would even remotely resemble or constitute teamwork in any fashion, condition, shape or form.
You still could have destroyed the Madrugar without using your squad's Warbarge Strike. You couldn't have possible ever been 100% certain that you would be destroyed by the Madrugar simply because it is a Madrugar. You have no idea the pilot's fittings, nor ability. Also, since you were using a Falchion, I'm going to assume that you were either using a Railgun or a Missile Turret. Both would have easily given you the edge over that Madrugar.
Your cowardice does not count as a reason as to why vehicles require teamwork. Nor does simply deciding to use teamwork.
Good tanker? There is no such thing. To be a "good" tanker would imply that tanks require skill beyond the activation of hardners and rotating the joysticks to control the camera and turret. Along with firing R1. Assault Rifles require more skill than tanks.
Unless by skill, you are referring to actual Skill Points. In which case, yes I would agree that piloting a tank requires immense amounts of "skill"
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:40:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:I was playing vs Bad Furry and others in Skirmish yesterday, I tore apart most of the vehicles and infantry (lol that too) with my forge but I died once at the end for not learning how to use cover. Nobody seems to aim at tank's weak spot these days... My Swarms always hit the weak-spot of tanks.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:42:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Adapting tactics to meet challenges arising from shifts in the metagame...
Who woulda thought?
While 5 tanks on the other team can be annoying, they're not that hard to avoid most times There are only two maps in this entire game that allow you to avoid vehicles while still being able to achieve victory.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: If they did you wouldn't be bitching.....
Huh? That word isn't censored?
Anyways. Not quite considering how my Swarms are about as useful as an Amarr blueberry.
Then again, it's not like the only AV most pilots want to see are Sicas with Particle Cannons.
Also, I don't think it would be wise for a tanker to call out "b*tching" when I could compile all of their "b*tching" and QQ into a thread longer than even the Scout Registry.....
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:23:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Atiim wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Adapting tactics to meet challenges arising from shifts in the metagame...
Who woulda thought?
While 5 tanks on the other team can be annoying, they're not that hard to avoid most times There are only two maps in this entire game that allow you to avoid vehicles while still being able to achieve victory. I like how you tell us what those maps are in your post and why the other maps don't allow you to win. I especially like the detailed reasoning you provided. I will do so later, as I have already gone far in-depth on this multiple times.
Plus, my dogs need to be walked right now.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 03:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: NOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR TO HAVE TO USE TEAMWORK!! I DEMAND TO BE ABLE TO SOLO WITH MINIMAL EFFORT, RISK AND INVESTMENT!! - said all pilots, ever.
FTFY
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:So basically your upset because people finally realized that they shouldn't be forced to use tactics to defeat you when you yourself aren't forced to in any way, condition, shape, or form?
Spkr4theDead wrote: Infantry didn't have to do anything difficult from when Uprising first dropped, to Dec. 9th. Now you're all complaining that you can't solo tanks anymore.
Bro, do you even Scout? or Heavy? or Commando? or Laser Rifle? or anything?
(Don't answer that 2nd part. I already saw you camping on that tower with a forge & PRO Heavy once.)
Spkr4theDead wrote:You call yourself a tanker, yet have been on a crusade against the very thing you were skilled into.
Have you destroyed any tanks since 1.7 dropped? I am not on a crusade against vehicles; And I am a tanker. Dispute it as much as you want but it is FACT. Not Pilot Fiction that people like you and Char like to tell at the dinner table.
Have I destroyed tanks? Yes. However I have only destroyed vehicle pilots with my swarms when they were too dumb to activate the hardner(s).
For pilots with an IQ greater than 5 (Yes, the term actually exists), I have to resort to one of my old methods. The good old Boundless Proxies next to Boundless REs trick. Idiots fall for it all the time (including you).
Now tell me, what happens when I run into a pilot who actually knows what they are doing? What if I don't want to use my tank? What if somebody doesn't have a tanker with them? Tank 514. That's what.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: And what did that video result in? You being destroyed by a MLT missile turret. Of course, when on video you chose to do the thing that in some cases is easier, but you still got popped. You're just terrible at vehicles.
If you have the capability to record, then do it. I'm a full time tanker. You're just infantry.
Yes, while in tandem with an XT-1 Missile Launcher as well. And I've already addressed this so many times that you are literally saying that for the simple sake of saying it.
I don't have the capability to record, and I don't plan on getting a Graphics card anytime soon.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:09:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: NOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR TO HAVE TO USE TEAMWORK!! I DEMAND TO BE ABLE TO SOLO WITH MINIMAL EFFORT, RISK AND INVESTMENT!! - said all pilots, ever.
FTFY Now now child, profanity is bad. What does the truth hurts?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:13:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:I was playing vs Bad Furry and others in Skirmish yesterday, I tore apart most of the vehicles and infantry (lol that too) with my forge but I died once at the end for not learning how to use cover. Nobody seems to aim at tank's weak spot these days... My Swarms always hit the weak-spot of tanks. Again, there you are about "your swarms," instead of "I can do this and this in my tank." It's always "my swarms." That's because I like "my swarms" and I am tired of fielding "my tank".
Plus, why brag about what I can do with an 80GJ Particle Cannon? Every pilot and his grandma has (or had) one. But not many carry the Wirykomi Swarm Launcher.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:24:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL How can you not say every post of yours relating to vehicles is against them?
Not every single post in regards to vehicles are against them. In fact some actually favor a buff.
However, a vast majority of my posts are against what I like to call Tank 514.
Why people assume that I hate vehicles is well beyond me; but then again I guess they have to have something to use as a personal attack against someone who doesn't believe in the "Be all, end all things" ideal.
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