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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:08:00 -
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People do it because militia tanks are free.
3 in a bad match, 4 in a descent match.
At least make them cost ISK so they lose something for being bad at DUST.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:35:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People do it because militia tanks are free.
3 in a bad match, 4 in a descent match.
At least make them cost ISK so they lose something for being bad at DUST. I didn't get my free Militia tanks. CCP, why do I have to pay more than 50k per tank when apparently some people get them free? Oh, right, this "free tanks" thing was a flat out LIE. You get Militia DROPSUITS for free with Starter Fits. You don't get free VEHICLES. And you CERTAINLY don't get free TANKS. They're cheap (until you fit... ANYTHING on them), but they are most definitely NOT free.
You don't know what figurative language is, do you?
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:51:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:You don't know what figurative language is, do you? Your attempt at a point doesn't really matter if someone's still losing their ALMOST (not actually) free tank multiple times in a match. A good player in a Protosuit can afford 3 or 4 in a match pretty comfortably, and will frequently NOT die even that often, remaining in their suit the whole battle AND still making a profit. A competent tanker with a cheap enough Militia tank to actually afford more than 2 in a single match will still be dying regularly, and occasionally coming out with a loss in ISK if they don't revert to even cheaper infantry fittings to avoid going negative. When you're running Proto gear and it looks like you're going to go negative if you don't cut back, you can still cut back while filling the same battlefield role. Tanks can't do the same.
You're comparing prototype gear that takes months of grinding to unlock, to militia tanks that are unlocked at character creation.
And you don't see the problem with this?
You can afford 3-4 militia tanks per battle (65k for mine with no BPOs equipped), and if you lose more than two you're doing something very wrong or the enemy just has their **** in order.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:32:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People do it because militia tanks are free.
3 in a bad match, 4 in a descent match.
At least make them cost ISK so they lose something for being bad at DUST. I didn't get my free Militia tanks. CCP, why do I have to pay more than 50k per tank when apparently some people get them free? Oh, right, this "free tanks" thing was a flat out LIE. You get Militia DROPSUITS for free with Starter Fits. You don't get free VEHICLES. And you CERTAINLY don't get free TANKS. They're cheap (until you fit... ANYTHING on them), but they are most definitely NOT free. You don't know what figurative language is, do you? My dropsuits cost 3-4k each. That's like 12+ suits to one tank frame.
When you spawn in as your militia dropsuit, does it force 2-3 or more of the enemy to pull out advance to prototype fits designed specifically to kill you?
Just curious.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:35:00 -
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Gorra Snell wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
You can afford 3-4 militia tanks per battle (65k for mine with no BPOs equipped), and if you lose more than two you're doing something very wrong or the enemy just has their **** in order.
You're a good player...good enough that I think you've lost perspective on what the game's like for players in not in the upper echelons. I'd estimate that the lower half to two thirds of players in any given match get payouts around 160k to 180k...and no one's going to run an unfitted HAV, so militia fits actually cost ~80k. That's two per match, and palyers in the unskilled-average range can easily lose 3 or 4 per match. Militia is, and should be, priced for scrubs.
My all militia tank fits are 65k, personally.
If they're gonna be priced for scrubs, then they shouldn't be statistically similar to standard tanks. Either they cost more and retain their usefulness, or the keep the minimalist price tag, and lose out on effectiveness.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:40:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:CCP need to make it that you have to hold circle for 30sec before you can jump out the tank. If your tanks gonna pop you have no right to jump out the last the last sec.  All those talk about tankers honor. Pilot should go down with the vehicle. I cant jump out from my Proto dropsuit with a militia undergarment... Why should they be allowed to do so?! Yr also not wearing 2 suits, kinda like a tanker. So if I go down, I lose my tank AND my suit. And I don't run crap suits, because I might just have to get out and do something.
That's your choice though. You don't HAVE to wear a good suit in your tank. I basically never use a good suit in my dropship, I just use a free one.
Generally speaking a good tanker should never have to get out to do anything, he should be using is tank for tank stuff.
So, no one is stopping you from wearing a good suit, but it shouldn't be a balance factor, because that is your personal decision.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 17:43:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Don't worry, Fiend obviously doesn't either.
I know right, it's almost like speaking figuratively would be considered figuratively speaking.
This forum just continues to impress.
Carry on oh wise lords of intelligencelessness
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:25:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:Tanking is not fun if you know your not killing anyone. (also I hate Rambo tanker and Red line tanker you guy are fake tankers)
I was in a couple matches against you earlier. The one on Line Harvest I was shoving your teams vehicles so far up their asses with my Incubus they didn't know what to do....until one guy sat so far in the redline with his damage stacked rail tank I had no option but to recall.
So dumb
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