DUST Search - My new logi fit, codename: Chubby chaser

lee corwood wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

to be honest, use both RRs and CRs. i don't see why everyone was choosing between them. they are both good for different situations.

i personally have both of them to prof.3.

if you plan on facing heavies head on, (though from what i'm hearing, this isn't a good idea) then use the ACR. it will excel the best in CQC. or practice with the normal CR. once you get used to it, it out DPS the ACR.

I have both to level 4 right now. I like the CR (both variants) better, but the RR certainly has great situational value. I'm asking more in general terms, what makes more sense for the fit... RR or ACR? Maybe regular CR is a compromise.

I guess my answer would be that while they are both good, I grab CR before RR, in most every situation. Most of my encounters include popping over a hill and letting 1 or two see me and filtering them around a corner or through a straight hallway. I can feather the CR faster and the bursts help me strafe and hit target more often than the RR. If you're in a squad, (which you should be) more often than not, most of them are running RR to handle the far aways for you.


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 724	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:52:00 - [1] - Quote Amarr logi A/1 Complex shield ext x 2 Basic shield ext BK-42 ACR Toxin SMG Flux grenade Nanite injector BDR 8 triage rep tool (200k SP away from core) K17/D Nanohive Basic armor plate x 2 Enhanced armor plate Still playing with it a little, might put in an armor repper. Also, thoughts on the weapon choice? I picked ACR for now since I figure there will be a lot of CQC but perhaps I should do a RR to give us some long-range ability. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 724	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:43:00 - [2] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: to be honest, use both RRs and CRs. i don't see why everyone was choosing between them. they are both good for different situations. i personally have both of them to prof.3. if you plan on facing heavies head on, (though from what i'm hearing, this isn't a good idea) then use the ACR. it will excel the best in CQC. or practice with the normal CR. once you get used to it, it out DPS the ACR. I have both to level 4 right now. I like the CR (both variants) better, but the RR certainly has great situational value. I'm asking more in general terms, what makes more sense for the fit... RR or CR? Maybe regular CR is a compromise. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 727	Posted - 2013.12.19 16:08:00 - [3] - Quote lee corwood wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: to be honest, use both RRs and CRs. i don't see why everyone was choosing between them. they are both good for different situations. i personally have both of them to prof.3. if you plan on facing heavies head on, (though from what i'm hearing, this isn't a good idea) then use the ACR. it will excel the best in CQC. or practice with the normal CR. once you get used to it, it out DPS the ACR. I have both to level 4 right now. I like the CR (both variants) better, but the RR certainly has great situational value. I'm asking more in general terms, what makes more sense for the fit... RR or ACR? Maybe regular CR is a compromise. I guess my answer would be that while they are both good, I grab CR before RR, in most every situation. Most of my encounters include popping over a hill and letting 1 or two see me and filtering them around a corner or through a straight hallway. I can feather the CR faster and the bursts help me strafe and hit target more often than the RR. If you're in a squad, (which you should be) more often than not, most of them are running RR to handle the far aways for you. I totally agree, the RR's spool up time messes me up more than I would have thought, so I default to the CR as well. But, this is not a generic RR vs CR thread, what I'm asking is a very specific situation. If you are building a logi suit specifically for the purpose of following a heavy around, what's the best weapon to use (in that siutuation only)? Do you want to: A) Make yourselves into a dual bullet-hose CQC death machine by equipping an ACR? B) Offset the weakness of the HMG's short range by using an RR? (for me as an Amarr logi I do have an SMG to fall back on for CQC) C) Compromise with something like a ScR or regular CR (or even AR) that is in the middle? (Will edit the OP to make that question more prominent) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 730	Posted - 2013.12.19 16:35:00 - [4] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: I'd stick with the regular CR on a chubby chaser fit. But Repe Susi said, as a chubby chaser you should be a) repping and b) scanning when not repping. If you have a third man to scan for you, hives are okay to use. Drop those K17Ds though and replace them with K-2s. If you scan then rep, you actually get the same number of points as if you'd gotten the kill yourself (35 WP Guardian + 15 WP intel kill assist). Probably more if you get some triage too. I've found that the best rep tool is the Lai Dai Flux. It's only 75 HP/sec, so your heavy will have to play conservatively unless he has two tools locked on him, but the extra distance means you can stay far away from the engagements and also can triage other teammates in a far larger radius. Good call on the scanner. I have literally no idea why I didn't think of that. Makes more sense than the nanite injector, that was leftover because this was pretty much just a dual-tanked version of my existing medic fit for more durability. I had the K17/D's so I could get some reps for myself too if needed but I will probably need to downgrade that in order to make room for the scanner and proto rep tool once I get it unlocked - I have been sitting at level 4 for months because of the lack of health bars! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 731	Posted - 2013.12.19 16:40:00 - [5] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Laser rifle? By the time your chubby chum gets into range no-one should have any shields left. LOL, I totally thought about that after I finished typing post #8! I love my LR but it's just so UP again, I find myself losing to RR's consistently. Plus, the RR at least has some value in CQC that the laz0r sadly does not. I'm going to have to wait patiently for it to get un-nerfed for the THIRD time before I use it other than just for fun once in a while. (Unless shield tanking makes a massive comback perhaps, but even then the ScR would probably be a better choice.) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 731	Posted - 2013.12.19 17:23:00 - [6] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I love my LR but it's just so UP again, I find myself losing to RR's consistently. Plus, the RR at least has some value in CQC that the laz0r sadly does not. Damn, you've just blown my attempt to gimp your fit, you slave trading scum. Godless and cowardly Matari saboteurs cost me enough suits awoxing in FW already, thank you! No need to further add to the total. (I lost 10 in a FW match last night in which 7 people on my team - I do have pics - got 0 WP. My entire team managed 15 kills, and yes, I was in a squad) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 743	Posted - 2013.12.19 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: I would have two builds TBH. If your chubby is running out in the open a lot you are going to want to have that RR. But if your chubbs likes to sit and defend well then you are going to want that ACR. I'm sure I'll end up doing that but I'm an omni-soldier at heart (which I feel any good logi should be) so I'm always out of fitting slots.... grr, give us more slots and folders CCP! I have AR, ScR, sniper, and swarms all to proto and RR/CR at 4, so I'm never short of options. Of course, I'm also not an expert at anything either. Anyway, back to the point: since the health bars came back I have a repper on most of my commonly-used logi fits now, so it's not like I can't do it with my ScR suit or CR suit or RR suit. I mostly wanted a discussion in terms of a single dedicated suit built strictly for the purpose, with max tank and no damage mods. This has been an excellent one, btw, so thanks to everyone that has and will post here. I'm beginning to think that maybe a RR/SMG combo might be the best, but if I decide to use my cal logi more I might have to so CR since I won't have the sidearm. Hm... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 743	Posted - 2013.12.19 22:29:00 - [8] - Quote Tiny Pineapple wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Amarr logi A/1 Complex shield ext x 2 Basic shield ext BK-42 ACR Toxin SMG Flux grenade Nanite injector BDR 8 triage rep tool (200k SP away from core) K17/D Nanohive Basic armor plate x 2 Enhanced armor plate Still playing with it a little, might put in an armor repper. Comments? EDIT: Please give your thoughts on the weapon choice. I picked ACR for now since I figure there will be a lot of CQC but perhaps I should do a RR to give us some long-range ability and offset the HMG's weakness. See post #8) I know you didn't ask for this but switch that Basic Shield Extender, 22 extra hp isn't going to save you. You can put a damage mod on or leave it empty and use the extra cpu and pg to fit that proto repper. As for weapon, I'd go for the RR for long range engangements and use the SMG for CQC. The SMG is a monster when properly skilled. Damage mod won't fit. I may drop the extender when I swtich to proto rep tool but we'll see. Of course, I could also use my ak.0 but I don't have big piles of PC cash sitting around waiting to be spent on shiny things, I need to be a little more judicious. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 745	Posted - 2013.12.20 00:57:00 - [9] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Amarr logi A/1 Complex shield ext x 2 Basic shield ext BK-42 ACR Toxin SMG Flux grenade Nanite injector BDR 8 triage rep tool (200k SP away from core) K17/D Nanohive Basic armor plate x 2 Enhanced armor plate Still playing with it a little, might put in an armor repper. Comments? EDIT: Please give your thoughts on the weapon choice. I picked ACR for now since I figure there will be a lot of CQC but perhaps I should do a RR to give us some long-range ability and offset the HMG's weakness. See post #8) Mines that but all proto'd up with proto rep tool, adv hives and std uplinks, same weapon though and it was crowned the heavy hugger in beta. You had an ACR in beta? Damn, no wonder it did well... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!