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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:24:00 -
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Restrict Tanks to 2 per team ..
All day every match has been 4/5 tanks on the enemy team from the start ...
You know what CCP Go fck yourselves I'm done with this crap |
Aisha Ctarl
Scions of Athra
2281
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:25:00 -
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Ciao.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Jason Pearson
3522
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:26:00 -
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Bai o/
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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steadyhand amarr
Scions of Athra
2107
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:27:00 -
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Thats like 6 im out threads in like a week defo above average.
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
876
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:29:00 -
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tanks are only bad when only your enemies have them. When both sides have them they tend to keep to tank business.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
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Audacious Mandate
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:31:00 -
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Ok, I'll say it... Can I have your ISK? :)
I'm not fat, I'm just big boned!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1592
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:33:00 -
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Leave Battle Go run some PvE missions. Stomp some drones, feel better. Then, get back in your time machine and tell us what 2017 was like.
Alyssa Milano.
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Sgt Buttscratch
1175
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:36:00 -
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Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
253
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:38:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Restrict Tanks to 2 per team ..
All day every match has been 4/5 tanks on the enemy team from the start ...
You know what CCP Go fck yourselves I'm done with this crap
You know what I found to be fun the other day... Most of the tanks seen on the field are just "newb" militia tanks with no real skills behind them. Cheap disposable things really. So much so that if I run across a shield tanking one when it's out of shield boosting cycle, then I just lob a flux grenade or two at it, watch the sheilds instantly go to nothing and then start doing significant damage to it with my flaylock pistol! It's hilarious to watch a tank running away from a guy using a pistol!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9099
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:38:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks There's no point killing free tanks.
Tanks need a price increase, and militia tanks need an overall nerf. There should never ever be a reason that a militia tank can perform even close to a standard tank, it simply shouldn't happen.
Vids / O7
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1317
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:42:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Restrict Tanks to 2 per team ..
All day every match has been 4/5 tanks on the enemy team from the start ...
You know what CCP Go fck yourselves I'm done with this crap
Give me your ISK before you leave. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2570
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks There's no point killing free tanks. Tanks need a price increase, and militia tanks need an overall nerf. There should never ever be a reason that a militia tank can perform even close to a standard tank, it simply shouldn't happen.
Just as no militia suit or gun can compete with a standard suit?
There is no point to killing starter fits in a match. They should all die if you look at them disapprovingly. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1356
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:44:00 -
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Eve-offline
I'll just add another slash here. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9099
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:49:00 -
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Skihids wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks There's no point killing free tanks. Tanks need a price increase, and militia tanks need an overall nerf. There should never ever be a reason that a militia tank can perform even close to a standard tank, it simply shouldn't happen. Just as no militia suit or gun can compete with a standard suit? There is no point to killing starter fits in a match. They should all die if you look at them disapprovingly. I don't know why I have to explain to people the difference between a tank and a dropsuit...
Vids / O7
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:51:00 -
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Look
1 or 2 tanks on each team .. no problem
This isn't an oh noooooooes Tanks are invincible thread it's a screw tank spam thread ..
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1356
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:53:00 -
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HEY HEY!! NO AV VS TANKS ARGUMENTS ON THIS THREAD! THIS IS A GOOD BYE THREAD FOR OUR DEAR FRIEND ZEUS!!
*Zerus. and you never meant him*
Alas I don't need to, to know he is the smart one umong us. NOW RUN LAD AND DON'T LOOK BACK!!
SAIL AWAY ZERUS!! o7 |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:58:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:HEY HEY!! NO AV VS TANKS ARGUMENTS ON THIS THREAD! THIS IS A GOOD BYE THREAD FOR OUR DEAR FRIEND ZEUS!! *Zerus. and you never meant him* Alas I don't need to, to know he is the smart one umong us. NOW RUN LAD AND DON'T LOOK BACK!! SAIL AWAY ZERUS!! o7
o7
Good Luck |
Ankbar Latrommi
Immortal Guides
8
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Posted - 2013.12.18 15:58:00 -
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Zerus Ni'Kator wrote:Restrict Tanks to 2 per team .. All day every match has been 4/5 tanks on the enemy team from the start ...
woohoo! Praise the sandbox!
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
Eve> FPS
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
995
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:00:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:HEY HEY!! NO AV VS TANKS ARGUMENTS ON THIS THREAD! THIS IS A GOOD BYE THREAD FOR OUR DEAR FRIEND ZEUS!! *Zerus. and you never meant him* Alas I don't need to, to know he is the smart one umong us. NOW RUN LAD AND DON'T LOOK BACK!! SAIL AWAY ZERUS!! o7 in April add me to the PS4 games only list.
I tried 1.7 again and every game was tank spam.
just waiting for april FFX HD , Planetside, Watch Dogs, Metal Gear,
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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CrotchGrab 360
632
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:02:00 -
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I tried to counter-tank earlier, activated my damage mod and my blaster was doing almost 0 damage to the enemy tank.
Also noticed how a forge gun does 1000hp to a tank but with hardeners on it does 100!? |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2579
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks There's no point killing free tanks. Tanks need a price increase, and militia tanks need an overall nerf. There should never ever be a reason that a militia tank can perform even close to a standard tank, it simply shouldn't happen. Just as no militia suit or gun can compete with a standard suit? There is no point to killing starter fits in a match. They should all die if you look at them disapprovingly. I don't know why I have to explain to people the difference between a tank and a dropsuit...
Please enlighten me.
Why do militia items exist?
I was under the impression they exist to allow players entry into a play style with minimum SP investment and to give them a low ISK fitting to use while earning more SP to skill further.
As such militia items need to be competative with the lowest tier, namely standard. Militia has poorer fitting costs or is a bit less competitive in some way, but must be useful or it fails in its mission to serve as an introduction to that play style.
Militia tanks follow that model. They can win a tank fight so they give the player a taste for tanking, yet they are less survivable in general due to fewer slots and far longer cool down times. So while it is squishier than standard it can win if it gets the drop on the standard.
Why is that so offensive to you? Do you want to make tanking an end game role reserved for vets who already have a maxed out infantry fitting to pay the training bills? |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
521
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Joined a match with 4 tanks out earlier, within 3mins they had 0 we had 2, we took out another 5.
Tanks can be killed, can be avoided. 4/5 tanks on a team leave them under staffed where they need it if you know how to exploit this weekness. Quit crying, toughen up and kill some ******* tanks There's no point killing free tanks. Tanks need a price increase, and militia tanks need an overall nerf. There should never ever be a reason that a militia tank can perform even close to a standard tank, it simply shouldn't happen.
I can live with the HAV preformance, speed, AV nerfs, ect...IF the cost of a tank was more than my PC dropsuit.
Tankers pretty much have their wish, it's extremely difficult to kill them with AV and another Tank is the best counter. I don't entirely agree that that's the way they should have gone but I can be cool with it ...if the cost of their vehicles and the reward for killing one reflected it.
Recommendation: 1) WP for damage dealt in addition to vehicle Kills on HAVs and Dropships. 2) Kill WPs increased: 250 WP for HAV kill, 125 WP for Kill Assist. Same for Dropships. 3) Change the price of tanks and dropships back to pre 1.7 prices. 4) Adjust stats for milita HAVs so that there is a more noticable gap between MLT and STD (Nerf militia, no change to standard). No probblem at all with someone trying out HAVs but having no SP and little outlay of ISK allows them to dominate maps. We don't have anyother system that provides that level of advantage to my knowledge.
thoughts? |
Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
219
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:13:00 -
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Can I have your ISK? |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
216
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:23:00 -
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Jeeps with REs...
You should try it.
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1150
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:27:00 -
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Tanks are only a problem if your team has none, thats on you as much as anyone else on the team. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
134
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:32:00 -
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Since 1.7 dropped, I've died to tanks maybe 10 times -- as an infantry they are generally not hard to avoid.
I really, really don't get all the QQ about it.
To be honest, I enjoy the diversity and new types of teamwork enabled by it. |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:51:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Since 1.7 dropped, I've died to tanks maybe 10 times -- as an infantry they are generally not hard to avoid.
I really, really don't get all the QQ about it.
To be honest, I enjoy the diversity and new types of teamwork enabled by it.
Tank Spam .. Spam .. not tanks .. Spam ... their is NOTHING IN THIS THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT TANKS BEING OP OR BEING KILLED BY THEM .. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SPAM
ARGH idiots who don't even know what I'm complaining about shouldn't comment |
Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:56:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Tanks are only a problem if your team has none, thats on you as much as anyone else on the team.
Spam .. Spam .. SPAM ... SPAM !!!!!!!!!! Do you understand yet ?? SPAM ... 6 tanks .. so basically you;re saying that me along with 5 other people on my team have to switch into Tanks which we may or may not be skilled into to go and fight the opponent team SPAMMING Tanks ??
1/2 tanks on each team .. no problem it's a good balance ... 6 tanks on a team of 16 players is OVERKILL
Even if I got into a damn Tank it'd be 6 v 1 !!! Even if i managed to kill them because Tanks are so cheap they'd all all in another 1 ..
Tired of these self righteous replies ...
Basically you're saying everyone should skill into Tanks to deal with a select few who have skilled into Tanks ?? Why don;t all vehicle users skill into Assault Rifles to counter all the people with Assault Rifles then ?
I DO NOT WANT TO BE A TANKER ...
If it takes 2/3 AV to take out 1 tank then 6 tanks mean you need 18 ppl to take out those 6 tanks .. their are only 16 players on each team ..
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.12.18 21:59:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Jeeps with REs...
You should try it.
SPAM .. TANK FLIPPING SPAM ...
Where in my OP did I Say I can't kill tanks ? Nowhere .. my complaint is Tank Spam .. I do not want to have every single game being 6 enemy tanks .. even if i kill all 6 enemy tanks .. they are so cheap they just call more in .. I do not want to spend my entire time killing bloody Tanks !!! If I wanted to spend all my time killing Tanks I'd go play World Of Tanks !!!!
Yet another self righteous prick not even understanding the basic complaint in the OP .... Spam .. SPAM .. SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM .. Do you get it yet idiot ? |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
408
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Posted - 2013.12.18 22:01:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:I tried to counter-tank earlier, activated my damage mod and my blaster was doing almost 0 damage to the enemy tank.
Also noticed how a forge gun does 1000hp to a tank but with hardeners on it does 100!? It depends on their build really.
I've said this numerous times. There are, currently three kinds of tanks.
- ****** unfit ones
- Rep-Hardener/Booster tanked
- Hardener-HP tanked
The first one is easy-mode to kill. The second needs to take a lot of damage in a short time to kill. Railguns and forges **** this build. This one needs constant AV fire that out DPS's their reps. (Usually only 75-150/s) Swarms **** this build when the hardeners are down.
In any case you either need to be positioned well or catch the tanker getting stuff on terrain or backed into something. Or do what I do, sneak up behind them with three REs and slap 'em on their ass end. It does double damage there, nearly 3K per RE. Not to mention you can actually wait until their hardeners are down to pop them.
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
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