DUST Search - HMG IS NOW OVERPOWERED!!!

D'Ogofwar wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D

Good job CCP!

P.S:
I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range.
Used to be 440.

DPS (All Proto):
Boundless HMG: 792 DPS
Freedom HMG: 601 DPS
Burst HMG: 1221 DPS

ARRRRGH! Dying inside. Mimatar alt. Heavy. 2 million unspent skillpoints. Will not be dirtied by Ammarian filth.

Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit.

They're out there! I can hear them. I can smell them.

Eyuh! Bring me my suit and i will kill them, CCP. Do you love them too much? Do you fear for their safety?

It matters not. Bring me my suit and Ammarian blood will flow in a mighty river, whose tributaries are fed by the rounds of my eternal and faithful Boundless HMG.

"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4795	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:50:00 - [1] - Quote Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D Good job CCP! P.S: I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range. Used to be 440. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 781	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:00:00 - [2] - Quote ....I didn't know how to react to your thread title...
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 124	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:01:00 - [3] - Quote is it actually viable now? can you actually HIT an enemy?
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 781	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:03:00 - [4] - Quote How does the Six-Kin perform?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4797	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:06:00 - [5] - Quote chase rowland wrote: is it actually viable now? can you actually HIT an enemy? Dude, I shred people so fast I'm like "Was that a scout?"! Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4800	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:09:00 - [6] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: How does the Six-Kin perform? Didn't try yet, but it had a massive ROF increase, it's now at 4625.30. It's DPS is 1221. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 875	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:09:00 - [7] - Quote I got into one of the first matches with my mh-82 right after dt, I dived into a group of enemies and was blowing them into the spawn que. Finished the match 26/6 Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1293	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:11:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: How does the Six-Kin perform? Didn't try yet, but it had a massive ROF increase, it's now at 4625.30. It's DPS is 1221. Mother of God. Looks like we got a classic CCP buff along the lines of tanks... ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 781	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:13:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: How does the Six-Kin perform? Didn't try yet, but it had a massive ROF increase, it's now at 4625.30. It's DPS is 1221. Jeezus! Now, it's only a matter of time before the HMG Q.Qs roll in. I can't wait.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4800	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:13:00 - [10] - Quote Added DPS stats to the thread. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 124	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:16:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: chase rowland wrote: is it actually viable now? can you actually HIT an enemy? Dude, I shred people so fast I'm like "Was that a scout?"! thank god. I used to get owned by free suits in my proto heavy. so happy
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 782	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:20:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc, what is your overall opinion of the Heavy class as of now? Is it competitive?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4801	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:23:00 - [13] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Cat Merc, what is your overall opinion of the Heavy class as of now? Is it competitive? Definitely, with this much firepower, cloes range maps will be the realm of heavies. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 782	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:29:00 - [14] - Quote This is all good news. I can easily overlook the grenade spam as it affects almost everyone, so I am not too troubled by it. Now, I wonder how lance2ballzstrong is going to receive this...
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 938	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:31:00 - [15] - Quote Soon we will be seeing Nyan San with proto HMGs and HAVs. Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP. Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1589	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:42:00 - [16] - Quote Enticing... Always been a fan of the Assaults. Why compromise range with so little applicable difference in DPS? Same reticle? I thought I saw somewhere that Wolfman was changing it. (Must find PS3 power cord...) Alyssa Milano.
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 337	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:49:00 - [17] - Quote I was running with my Gallente Scout and I can confirm a heavy did quite the damage with his HMG from 70ish meters away. He took half my shields to be honest. This happened yesterday. Still ran away, though because I'm Kid Flash.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 244	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:11:00 - [18] - Quote Cant wait to take out my HMG and suit tonight, will be fun to try. Mybe all my SP is not a waste.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 371	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:13:00 - [19] - Quote I am glad heavies get some love I cant wait to see how they do perform now. This should aek the game more interesting AND I should rethink my playstyle now
Malek McRoland DUST University Ivy League 127	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:15:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D Good job CCP! P.S: I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range. Used to be 440. DPS (All Proto): Boundless HMG: 792 DPS Freedom HMG: 601 DPS Burst HMG: 1221 DPS HOOTZAH!!! Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.

Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 299	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:22:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D Good job CCP! P.S: I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range. Used to be 440. DPS (All Proto): Boundless HMG: 792 DPS Freedom HMG: 601 DPS Burst HMG: 1221 DPS Don't, please don't say OP and HMG in the one sentence just yet. I want to enjoy it for a while Haha, I suppose it might as well be one of us heavies that starts the QQing before the other suits get here.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9099	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:23:00 - [22] - Quote Rail Rifles are still insanely effective at CQC Vids / O7
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4806	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:25:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Rail Rifles are still insanely effective at CQC Never argued with that. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Audacious Mandate Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:29:00 - [24] - Quote Out of curiosity, any change to the spread or reticle? Is it still laser beam precise? I'm not fat, I'm just big boned!
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 299	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:30:00 - [25] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Rail Rifles are still insanely effective at CQC Yeh, I've only been up against light unorganised opposition mostly so far using the MH82 and shredding them, but I'll be interested to see how my proto vs rail proto works out in my range now. The issue I'm having with the rail is there are plenty of spots in the complexes where their range and accuracy with power can soften me up before they move into CQB, with little loss of power. Still it's more fun now being a waddling fat target.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4806	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:31:00 - [26] - Quote Audacious Mandate wrote: Out of curiosity, any change to the spread or reticle? Is it still laser beam precise? That's the other change, it wasn't just a damage increase. They reduced it's accuracy by half, and it now matches the reticule better. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
D'Ogofwar Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:31:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D Good job CCP! P.S: I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range. Used to be 440. DPS (All Proto): Boundless HMG: 792 DPS Freedom HMG: 601 DPS Burst HMG: 1221 DPS ARRRRGH! Dying inside. Mimatar alt. Heavy. 2 million unspent skillpoints. Will not be dirtied by Ammarian filth. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. They're out there! I can hear them. I can smell them. Eyuh! Bring me my suit and i will kill them, CCP. Do you love them too much? Do you fear for their safety? It matters not. Bring me my suit and Ammarian blood will flow in a mighty river, whose tributaries are fed by the rounds of my eternal and faithful Boundless HMG.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9099	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:36:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Rail Rifles are still insanely effective at CQC Never argued with that. Didn't say you did, just pointing out that the long range rifle is still just as nasty as the HMG in CQC Vids / O7
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2133	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:44:00 - [29] - Quote D'Ogofwar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Just kidding, it's extremely fun and very balanced :D Good job CCP! P.S: I suggest you people try the Assault HMG, it now has 600 DPS but is closer to the AR in range. Used to be 440. DPS (All Proto): Boundless HMG: 792 DPS Freedom HMG: 601 DPS Burst HMG: 1221 DPS ARRRRGH! Dying inside. Mimatar alt. Heavy. 2 million unspent skillpoints. Will not be dirtied by Ammarian filth. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. Need my suit. They're out there! I can hear them. I can smell them. Eyuh! Bring me my suit and i will kill them, CCP. Do you love them too much? Do you fear for their safety? It matters not. Bring me my suit and Ammarian blood will flow in a mighty river, whose tributaries are fed by the rounds of my eternal and faithful Boundless HMG. We sure do enjoy killing matari scum with their own death engines. revs up boundless hmg "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 22	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:50:00 - [30] - Quote Can't wait to get out of work today to go **** all over the assaults again. LET THE QQ RAIN!!!!!

Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2134	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:59:00 - [31] - Quote We will eat those gal logis alive. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2308	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:07:00 - [32] - Quote The Death Engine's return has come! Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 108	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:15:00 - [33] - Quote Yay come on out fatties. My rr is waiting. The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Terram Nenokal Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 276	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:24:00 - [34] - Quote I saw a heavy across the street from me and my usual instincts told me "hey, easy kill". I was dead once I finished the sentence in my head. Loving to hate and hating to love Dust 514 since May 2012
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9100	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:25:00 - [35] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Yay come on out fatties. My rr is waiting. I just wish RR wasn't so good at CQC when it has the longest range in the game QQ Vids / O7
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 943	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:27:00 - [36] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: How does the Six-Kin perform? Didn't try yet, but it had a massive ROF increase, it's now at 4625.30. It's DPS is 1221. Jeezus! Now, it's only a matter of time before the HMG Q.Qs roll in. I can't wait. actually it would be nice to fear the heavy again. then us scouts will have our old nemesis back. what i'm expecting to see is heavies QQing about about more hp buffs. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4810	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:37:00 - [37] - Quote Terram Nenokal wrote: I saw a heavy across the street from me and my usual instincts told me "hey, easy kill". I was dead once I finished the sentence in my head. It's rather hilarious. They see a heavy go to cover and think an easy kill. Once they come around the corner, they don't even get a chance to drop 100 HP from me and they're already dead. :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
drake sadani Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 116	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:40:00 - [38] - Quote i was coming in here to take a massive crap all over everything everywhere . . i at least get to try this . i have been missing the heavy fit in my inventory
Cosgar ParagonX 8867	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:46:00 - [39] - Quote Minmatar heavy is going to be so ******* OP now... I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
danthrax martin Butcher's Nails 19	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:47:00 - [40] - Quote Lotsa people didnt read the notes... They still run at me but now they die, die, die! Soldiers Blue in the barren waste, hunting and killing their game.

NEO Arbiter Shining Flame Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:36:00 - [41] - Quote 2 Complex damage modifiers HMG proficiency 5 and a Six Kin Burst HMG 1,672 DPS and 978 damage per burst Taste my shotgun & feel my injector! Tears4Life
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 417	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:43:00 - [42] - Quote NEO Arbiter wrote: 2 Complex damage modifiers HMG proficiency 5 and a Six Kin Burst HMG 1,672 DPS and 978 damage per burst IF all the bullets hit, which won't happen unless you shove your HMG straight up their hindquarters. If they let a fattie that close, then they deserve all 1672 of that DPS Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
Canis Ferox Ultramarine Corp 12	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:55:00 - [43] - Quote I haven't experienced the changes fist hand, but my feeling is HMG was pitiful before. I am a scout and for a long time now I have been confidently taking Heavies on in one on one fights, with an AR, even at close range. - Just running around them and blapping them in the head. I tdidn't seem fair. Now I should have a reason to fear heavies again, which is balanced. I also will get a chance to try out my LP earnt HMG myself. Do you need a Heavy Damage Modifier on these and can I get one without extra skills (weapons upgrades on 5)? Also, I took damage when a flying corpse hit me the yesterday. That was cool. Will the HMG now have the ability to scatter bodies down corridors like a bowling sim? I want this to happen!
Canis Ferox Ultramarine Corp 12	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:57:00 - [44] - Quote Also as Swarm Lunchers are now utterly useless - can we make them lockable onto heavies please? Or at least let us manual fire them so they spray off in all directions! Nah I'm kidding.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 301	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:57:00 - [45] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be so ******* OP now... Nope, not by the present design direction of the suits. The HMG is a CQB beast now, as it always should have been, and to be used effectively, the user will pair themselves up with a logi wielding a repair tool. Repair tools repair armour, something that the shield and high slot based Mini heavy will not have alot of in comparison to a Gal or Amarr. The Mini heavy should be more mobile, but the potentially most OP suit will be the Gal heavy with a HMG and logi.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 942	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:32:00 - [46] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be so ******* OP now... Nope, not by the present design direction of the suits. The HMG is a CQB beast now, as it always should have been, and to be used effectively, the user will pair themselves up with a logi wielding a repair tool. Repair tools repair armour, something that the shield and high slot based Mini heavy will not have alot of in comparison to a Gal or Amarr. The Mini heavy should be more mobile, but the potentially most OP suit will be the Gal heavy with a HMG and logi. Minmatar heavy = speed shield monster. Invulnerable to grenades. Runs like a cheetah. Sprays like a skunk. Im waiting for it.. gonna save some SP now ;) Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP. Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 303	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:39:00 - [47] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be so ******* OP now... Nope, not by the present design direction of the suits. The HMG is a CQB beast now, as it always should have been, and to be used effectively, the user will pair themselves up with a logi wielding a repair tool. Repair tools repair armour, something that the shield and high slot based Mini heavy will not have alot of in comparison to a Gal or Amarr. The Mini heavy should be more mobile, but the potentially most OP suit will be the Gal heavy with a HMG and logi. Minmatar heavy = speed shield monster. Invulnerable to grenades. Runs like a cheetah. Sprays like a skunk. Im waiting for it.. gonna save some SP now ;) Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the Mini heavy It'll be my mobile heavy suit, while my Gal heavy will be point defence. My Amarr heavy........well, that can probably do as a footstool for my quarters
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 133	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:49:00 - [48] - Quote I'm now scared to go indoors! Happy to hear the much-ignored HMG has gotten a well-deserved buff. Those guardian points are going to really roll in now., so Logis who run rep tools should, I think, be rejoicing about this as well.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1596	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:51:00 - [49] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: ....the Gal heavy with a HMG and logi. Set it up on Squad Finder. GallFatty to the mother ******* rescue. (The wait is literally killing my soul.) Alyssa Milano.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 108	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:54:00 - [50] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: axis alpha wrote: Yay come on out fatties. My rr is waiting. I just wish RR wasn't so good at CQC when it has the longest range in the game QQ I wouldn't know I dont run and gun with the rr. Never tried. Just sit back at an objective and pick em off from a far. If they make it in. Smg time. The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!

MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven 632	Posted - 2013.12.18 19:04:00 - [51] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Cat Merc, what is your overall opinion of the Heavy class as of now? Is it competitive? Definitely, with this much firepower, close range maps will be the realm of heavies. However, it's still rather stupid how easily explosives cut you down with little effort. As I said before and I'll say it again, the day they limit grenades to 1 per clone, heavies will be used in PC. Honestly the problem with explosives is there's no explosive resistance. Once that gets added to the game things will balance out a bit more. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic


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