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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:33:00 -
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Last time I checked, hiding behind a hill masks your profile from the enemy precision scan. This video just confirms my theory.
Also, the built-in base precision of your suit is only meant to pick up most medium and heavy frames. They were never meant to pick up light frames like the scouts. You can try to augment the precision scan to get maybe a scout with a standard profile level, but you're never gonna be able to track a proto scout. Nothing wrong with that.
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If you're talking about being spotted beyond the 10m range, he was withing your line of sight which means he will light up regardless on the mini map. By the way, the passive scan range for scouts has been recently buffed to 16m now.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:45:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Last time I checked, hiding behind a hill masks your profile from the enemy precision scan. This video just confirms my theory.
Also, the built-in base precision of your suit is only meant to pick up most medium and heavy frames. They were never meant to pick up light frames like the scouts. You can try to augment the precision scan to get maybe a scout with a standard profile level, but you're never gonna be able to track a proto scout. Nothing wrong with that.
EDIT:
If you're talking about being spotted beyond the 10m range, he was within your line of sight which means he will light up regardless on the mini map. By the way, the passive scan range for scouts has been recently buffed to 16m now. They buff the passive scan to 16m, great, still cannot see a heavy right behind me....
Then you're doing something wrong. If he's hiding behind a hill, that might explain why. But if he's hiding behind a man-made wall, then it's pretty obvious he did everything he can to reduce his profile. But even then, a fatty shouldn't be able to hide from me. What is your current fitting?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:53:00 -
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I just ran the numbers.
Scout Mk.0 with the most high slots for a scout class currently can be augmented to have a precision scan of 23.71 dB using complex precision enhancers.
Commando Ak.0 with most low slots for a heavy class currently can be augmented to have a scan profile of 27.36 dB using all complex profile dampeners.
You should not be able to have a problem seeing him.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:55:00 -
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mollerz wrote:MAken- there is no way they are calculating walls and LOS proper. I can;t see tanks rolling around, heavies, they can see me lots of times through walls and I am a scout skill/p damp lv 5 figga minja.
tacnet is totally not working.
Hmm... is this a recent problem with 1.7 because I haven't been able to log back in since I no longer have a PS3. Back in 1.6 when I had it I was having no problem at all seeing heavies behind me.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:56:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Proto mini scout, 3 complex shields, k-5 SG, proto flaylock, complex kin katz and one enhanced damp...
That explained it then.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:21:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:I'm level 3 in profile dampening and on my Min Logi I put on 3 basic profile dampeners and a complex armor plate. My profile level after the math is said and done would be about 29 dB (decibel). This means that tanks cannot scan me out and scouts will fail to pick me up only if they did not skill into scan precision. So either your dB (decibel) on your dropsuit is still high or your profile dampening level is too low.
Is you math accounting for stacking penalties? My math is based on the Dust Fitting Tool that we have.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:23:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Proto mini scout, 3 complex shields, k-5 SG, proto flaylock, complex kin katz and one enhanced damp...
That explained it then. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!! INJECT ME WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE!
/touches your face with the power of God
/gives you knowledge
Not enough precision enhancers and the heavy is probably stacking profile dampers up the ass. But that means they are soft targets now.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:24:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Last time I checked, hiding behind a hill masks your profile from the enemy precision scan. This video just confirms my theory.
Also, the built-in base precision of your suit is only meant to pick up most medium and heavy frames. They were never meant to pick up light frames like the scouts. You can try to augment the precision scan to get maybe a scout with a standard profile level, but you're never gonna be able to track a proto scout. Nothing wrong with that.
EDIT:
If you're talking about being spotted beyond the 10m range, he was within your line of sight which means he will light up regardless on the mini map. By the way, the passive scan range for scouts has been recently buffed to 16m now. And you don't see a problem with that? Just casually glancing over someone, even if your physical human eyes didn't catch that they were there, putting them on your minimap and displaying a chevron over their head..?
If I'm a scout and someone sees me directly with line of sight, then it's my fault for not hiding effectively.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:A heavy with profile dampeners eh..?
I know. It's about as laughable as a heavy with a nova knife.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:55:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:It's not about direct line of sight, it's anywhere on the screen. That's 50 or so meters that simply being on the screen will put you on the map, regardless of your profile and regardless of their precision. I'd say something is wrong with that. If all it takes is just casually glancing over someone - even if you, the player, did not physically recognize that there was another player there - it reveals your location. I don't think it should work that way. I think that your precision should have to beat their profile in order to reveal them on your TacNet.
Now that you put it that way, I see what you mean.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.12.18 05:41:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Line of Sight can't dampened away. Wait for cloaks... someday.
Was that a rhyme?
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