DUST Search - suggestion for team killers in FW

Malkai Inos wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Two "punished" teamkills to be turned purple for the remainder of the current battle.
Four punished teamkills to be turned purple until the next downtime.

Seven punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 3 days starting from the next server downtime.
Ten punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 7 days from the next downtime.

5,000 FF damage in a single day should turn you purple for the remainder of the current match. 7,000 in a single day should flag you until the next downtime. 10,000 in a single day or 20,000 over 3 days should flag you for 3 days. 50,000 FF damage in 3 days should flag you as purple for a week.

Purple players can spawn on default spawns and uplinks, NOT on objectives or CRUs.

Purple players should also ONLY be flagged as purple when working for the specific faction they were TKing, in order to avoid punishing players for sabotaging their rivals, which should be seen as a legitimate tactic.

I find those numbers a little crass and I fear that they might punish legit mistakes like fail OBs or 'nades more than the actual offenders.

Lets not forget :

A: TK and griefing in general is something that CCP intended to happen from time to time. Making players unable to properly play FW* for a week sounds as if the goal is to remove this play style almost completely. I don't expect CCP to do this since they see it as a valid way to play their games.

B: Any and every punishment can be avoided simply by using alts. Every punishment needs to keep in mind that the true abusive full time griefers can remain mostly unaffected with very little extra inconvenience.

I doubt that many players would deal 50k FF dmg on purpose using their main and for their own faction. A single fail OB on the other hand can effectively boot a legit player from FW* for a whole week and three days are by far enough to accumulate this amount regularly.

*for their prefered faction

Edit: I think that purple/orange dotting should not extent beyond a match, to next downtime at most. I also think that minor offences like shotgunning a single dumb blueberry in the face out of frustration does not necessarily need to have you punished for the whole match.


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4231	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:49:00 - [1] - Quote Two "punished" teamkills to be turned purple for the remainder of the current battle. Four punished teamkills to be turned purple until the next downtime. Seven punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 3 days starting from the next server downtime. Ten punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 7 days from the next downtime. 5,000 FF damage in a single day should turn you purple for the remainder of the current match. 7,000 in a single day should flag you until the next downtime. 10,000 in a single day or 20,000 over 3 days should flag you for 3 days. 50,000 FF damage in 3 days should flag you as purple for a week. Purple players can spawn on default spawns and uplinks, NOT on objectives or CRUs. Purple players should also ONLY be flagged as purple when working for the specific faction they were TKing, in order to avoid punishing players for sabotaging their rivals, which should be seen as a legitimate tactic.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4235	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:28:00 - [2] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Two "punished" teamkills to be turned purple for the remainder of the current battle. Four punished teamkills to be turned purple until the next downtime. Seven punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 3 days starting from the next server downtime. Ten punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 7 days from the next downtime. 5,000 FF damage in a single day should turn you purple for the remainder of the current match. 7,000 in a single day should flag you until the next downtime. 10,000 in a single day or 20,000 over 3 days should flag you for 3 days. 50,000 FF damage in 3 days should flag you as purple for a week. Purple players can spawn on default spawns and uplinks, NOT on objectives or CRUs. Purple players should also ONLY be flagged as purple when working for the specific faction they were TKing, in order to avoid punishing players for sabotaging their rivals, which should be seen as a legitimate tactic. I find those numbers a little crass and I fear that they might punish legit mistakes like fail OBs or 'nades more than the actual offenders. Lets not forget : A: TK and griefing in general is something that CCP intended to happen from time to time. Making players unable to properly play FW* for a week sounds as if the goal is to remove this play style almost completely. I don't expect CCP to do this since they see it as a valid way to play their games. B: Any and every punishment can be avoided simply by using alts. Every punishment needs to keep in mind that the true abusive full time griefers can remain mostly unaffected with very little extra inconvenience. I doubt that many players would deal 50k FF dmg on purpose using their main and for their own faction. A single fail OB on the other hand can effectively boot a legit player from FW* for a whole week and three days are by far enough to accumulate this amount regularly. *for their prefered faction Edit: I think that purple/orange dotting should not extent beyond a match, to next downtime at most. I also think that minor offences like shotgunning a single dumb blueberry in the face out of frustration does not necessarily need to have you punished for the whole match. If you manage to "accidentally" take out 7 players with Orbital Strikes AND they all choose to punish you, then you didn't communicate your intentions very well. if you manage to deal over 10,000 FF damage in a single day, you're obviously doing something wrong. NOTE: This is assuming they fix the stupid issues with "dealing" FF damage while being run over by a friendly tank in your LAV, and where blowing up your REs counts as you killing them, etc.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4236	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:45:00 - [3] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: I only have to get 3 punished TKs over the course of three days to be purple for the next three days. you seem to be getting the numbers THREE and SEVEN mixed up... Garrett Blacknova wrote: Seven punished teamkills within 3 days to be turned purple for a period of 3 days starting from the next server downtime.