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Roman837
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:33:00 -
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So, after reading multiple posts that claim "STB is not to be trusted" and "they break their deals"..I challenge anyone to come forward with proof of this allegation. We have a un-deserving bad rep that gets past along word of mouth to everyone. Those that actually take the time to squad with us and engage in diplomatic relations with us soon realize we are actually pretty reasonable people.
To clarify our position in this AE vs OH war.
We were already involved in a 1V1 war with Pradox when this war broke out. We voted as a corp/Alliance to stay neutral and let them fight it out. Pradox how ever..still continued to bring in ALL ringers. Never fielding their own team. This is when the negotiations began..with Radar AND Kujo..all out in the open, no secrets. Zatara can even confirm this as a third party.
OH agreed to give us 6 districts back on STB Prime if we remained NEUTRAL...I have the contract to prove this....they agreed that we could continue ur war with Pradox and that they would pretty much abandon them and concentrate on AE...The deal was..every day PD/STB remained neutral, they would give us a district. Before accepting this deal, we approached Kujo...who believe it or not...before getting our butts kicked by them in our lil war....we had pretty dam good relations with..and even during the war there was always mutual respect...so..I told Kujo this deal, and explained that STB and PD will remain Neutral, he didn't like it to much, but fully understood our position..and wanted a healthy fight with OH. Also..by us receiving the 6 districts from OH...was like OH LOSING 6 districts from their war effort..and was 6 districts AE didn't have to field attacks on. Also...STB and PD would still focus directly on Pradox.
Radar BROKE the deal. He gave us 3 districts...all late...and after 3 days of ignoring us...we asked him to speak with us...he ignored us completly. All he had to do was reply and explain the delay. Our spy in his little circle revealed his shady intent. He was delaying his payment to PD because he over estimated his position. He figured he would own AE and not have to pay us.
PD leadership took a vote. Everyone agreed that PD would now be weapons hot and available to ring for AE. We attacked ONE district on STB Prime and. Were immediatly attacked by OH..Dark Legion Valor Coalition and Rainbow effect.
We then returned fire and the rest is out in the open. Here's another part that all Pradox members should know. Radar left your to die..and so did your CEO Mike Ruan. We messaged him once we realized OH was reneging on their deal...we said that we would cease fire with Pradox so they could rebuild and we would focuz on AE....Mike Ruan ignored all messages, I have an alt in Pradox and their training corp, he was online. He has chosen out of selfish pride, not to give his soldiers rest and bury the hatchet of "peace" with us.
I challenge anyone to refute this post..and to prove without anydoubt..That STB is untrustworthy. You have been tricked by people who hate us from previous games. We have new leadership and are running things much differently. Squad me in game..and realize were not bad guys/girls. We are open to just about anything and believe in fair play.
Look forward to this game continuing to evolve and seeing corps come and go, die and rebuild.
On a side note..I hate all you tankers cuz my forge and lai dais now suck...currently skilling into RE's...muahaha
STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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Roman837
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
22
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:37:00 -
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*****Forcus on OH**** Not AE
STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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Raz0rs Edge
Red Star.
48
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:39:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:*****Forcus on OH**** Not AE is forcus a new corp?
ima cut u...
i will
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1928
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:48:00 -
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I can confirm I was there for these meetings and Roman and Ragewardog never did wrong by me, are pretty swole dudes, and (unless other proof comes forward) have always been completely honest in all diplomatic relations with me over the past 5 months.
Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds.
Favorite
Skype: Zatara.Rought
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oldhero
Tickle My Null-Sac
11
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:09:00 -
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I for one know stb is trutful in this matter. My reasoning is simple ilog into my alt in stb often nd they did infact send outmultiple corp nd alliance mails letting everyone know that ringing for oh or ae was prohibitedand they're only enemy was pradox
Emperor oldhero
Leader of the blueberries
Bow down to our might the might of gods
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
404
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:49:00 -
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A man who does not work multilaterally, saves no one but himself.
Also i believe spying is a thing that should be look down upon. It can easily hurt a corps reputation. In real life politics it can cause outrage * cough * NSA * cough *
If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell.
Malcom
Tragedy of Macbeth
Act IV Scene 3.
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2443
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:29:00 -
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who is sayin you have a 'stained' reputation?
STB has been beaten down, picked back up, rebuilt, thrown back in the mud, rebuilt again, and are still kickin, and to some extent thriving!
your collective ability to keep coming back is a testament to leadership who has been around for a long time.
if anyone considers STB 'stained' then you are sadly misinformed.
one thing I can say about STB is they are true to their word.
no shenanigans, no nonsense.
think what you may about their skill or whatever, but organizationally they have always been professional and I'm personally proud to have had the opportunity to work for and with them on several occasions in the past.
standup crew who has faced more adversity than most anyone, and are as stable as anything can be in this world!
Common Sense and Logic are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
2227
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:35:00 -
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Totally agree with cubs....even when QG was leader, STB was a corp of their word.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Roman837
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
27
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:40:00 -
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Thanks fellas. It means a lot to read these responses. I just read these forums everyday..and it sounded like the general public thinks we are untrustworthy. I also just wanted to clarify what happened during this war..so tha t when it ends that we can all move on and no one is lied to and told we betrayed them.
STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2443
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:53:00 -
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that's ok, who honestly cares what people think? I mean those that 'know' is all that matters.
half the forums are keyboard kowboys who don't even play the game, and half of the rest let others form opinions and meta and they just hop on the bandwagon.
fuhk em all
Common Sense and Logic are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
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Gods Architect
Pradox One Proficiency V.
1016
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:56:00 -
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No offense bro but a person or a corp that is needs to state they are trustworthy or "Clearing a stained reputation" probably isn't trustworthy or personally don't believe they are. PX1 is trustworthy, valor, DDB, etc. all these corps are trustworthy but you don't hear them announcing the reason they are. We don't have to defend it, and what's trust to gun game and nade spamming that trumps all.
I created Heaven and Hell I am God's Architect
Dust Illuminati soldier
Member of the Godslayer Gang and King of RP
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Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
275
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:59:00 -
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Well your spy was wrong and clearly you need to get a better one. Had nothing to do with me breaking the deal but I couldn't find time to give you the districts. After 20pcs a day any spare time I did have ended with me getting off my ps3. However I do not fault you as I did break the deal because I couldn't give you the districts on time. But whenever we want to take the districts back we will. :) wasn't the intent before but its not hard to do. |
Roman837
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
27
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:59:00 -
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Maybe we will steal a play out of Pradox's book..and hire a team to constantly repel you...and eventually you will go broke and stop attacking.
STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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KaoticKrusader
0uter.Heaven
42
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:50:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Maybe we will steal a play out of Pradox's book..and hire a team to constantly repel you...and eventually you will go broke and stop attacking.
You've done that already lol. First with TP and then with AE |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1455
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:37:00 -
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Only really had one interaction with STB and it was just organizing rules for a PFC match but they were very professional and kept their end of the bargain.
Plus I have good feelings towards the name from my MAG days. I miss my Vipera SMG.
FW standings - Gal 3 (briefly 4), Min 3, Ama 0, Cal 0, hatred of Scotty over 9000
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1889
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:47:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:A man who does not work multilaterally, saves no one but himself.
Also i believe spying is a thing that should be look down upon. It can easily hurt a corps reputation. In real life politics it can cause outrage * cough * NSA * cough * I have to disagree spying works sure there are negitives but there are positives too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude Easiest examples that came to mind...
STB's a good corp I doubt they'd do anything wrong
Level 1 Forum Warrior
I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
202
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:21:00 -
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Honestly, I can say that BEFORE joining PD. I was not a big fan of STB, not because I had any real proof but because QG made a fool of himself on the forums and a couple of corps rolling with them at the time were cowards. Those two corps have left since, and I can honestly say I was pleasantly surprised by STB.
All awesome, honest, stand up guys. There are no secrets or bullshit, if they say they will/won't do something you better believe it, because it's true.
I'm glad to be fighting by their side, it's a shame OH no showed today when I was ringing with STB, but I guess you guys are pretty worn out. GG.
Keep fighting, STB. 843 right here with you.
Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F
Patron of War | GPæGPìGPî
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Mithridates VI
2175
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:23:00 -
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I've always been pro-STB and don't have a bad word to say about them.
The Art of War IN SPACE
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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
397
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Posted - 2013.12.18 06:08:00 -
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hmm |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven
108
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Posted - 2013.12.18 17:23:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:So, after reading multiple posts that claim "STB is not to be trusted" and "they break their deals"..I challenge anyone to come forward with proof of this allegation. We have a un-deserving bad rep that gets past along word of mouth to everyone. Those that actually take the time to squad with us and engage in diplomatic relations with us soon realize we are actually pretty reasonable people.
To clarify our position in this AE vs OH war.
We were already involved in a 1V1 war with Pradox when this war broke out. We voted as a corp/Alliance to stay neutral and let them fight it out. Pradox how ever..still continued to bring in ALL ringers. Never fielding their own team. This is when the negotiations began..with Radar AND Kujo..all out in the open, no secrets. Zatara can even confirm this as a third party.
OH agreed to give us 6 districts back on STB Prime if we remained NEUTRAL...I have the contract to prove this....they agreed that we could continue ur war with Pradox and that they would pretty much abandon them and concentrate on AE...The deal was..every day PD/STB remained neutral, they would give us a district. Before accepting this deal, we approached Kujo...who believe it or not...before getting our butts kicked by them in our lil war....we had pretty dam good relations with..and even during the war there was always mutual respect...so..I told Kujo this deal, and explained that STB and PD will remain Neutral, he didn't like it to much, but fully understood our position..and wanted a healthy fight with OH. Also..by us receiving the 6 districts from OH...was like OH LOSING 6 districts from their war effort..and was 6 districts AE didn't have to field attacks on. Also...STB and PD would still focus directly on Pradox.
Radar BROKE the deal. He gave us 3 districts...all late...and after 3 days of ignoring us...we asked him to speak with us...he ignored us completly. All he had to do was reply and explain the delay. Our spy in his little circle revealed his shady intent. He was delaying his payment to PD because he over estimated his position. He figured he would own AE and not have to pay us.
PD leadership took a vote. Everyone agreed that PD would now be weapons hot and available to ring for AE. We attacked ONE district on STB Prime and. Were immediatly attacked by OH..Dark Legion Valor Coalition and Rainbow effect.
We then returned fire and the rest is out in the open. Here's another part that all Pradox members should know. Radar left your to die..and so did your CEO Mike Ruan. We messaged him once we realized OH was reneging on their deal...we said that we would cease fire with Pradox so they could rebuild and we would focuz on AE....Mike Ruan ignored all messages, I have an alt in Pradox and their training corp, he was online. He has chosen out of selfish pride, not to give his soldiers rest and bury the hatchet of "peace" with us.
I challenge anyone to refute this post..and to prove without anydoubt..That STB is untrustworthy. You have been tricked by people who hate us from previous games. We have new leadership and are running things much differently. Squad me in game..and realize were not bad guys/girls. We are open to just about anything and believe in fair play.
Look forward to this game continuing to evolve and seeing corps come and go, die and rebuild.
On a side note..I hate all you tankers cuz my forge and lai dais now suck...currently skilling into RE's...muahaha
true soldiers would fight back for sver prime
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