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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:31:00 -
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So I was thinking about this last night and I think I've come to a reasonable conclusion, so tell me what you think.
Keep in mind I'm only speaking about high end vehicles here, not the militia ones that are probably a bit too powerful considering what they are. So I'm talking about Standard vehicles with high end modules.
What if the current effectiveness of vehicles is a test run to see how strong 'maxed' vehicles with pilot suits should be. In other words, what if their intention is to ultimately nerf vehicles down at a later date, but buff them back up to where they are now IF the pilot is wearing a high level Pilot Suit.
Simply put:
Current Vehicles = Future Vehicles + Pilot Suit
Do you guys think this would be reasonable?
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:32:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:So I was thinking about this last night and I think I've come to a reasonable conclusion, so tell me what you think.
Keep in mind I'm only speaking about high end vehicles here, not the militia ones that are probably a bit too powerful considering what they are. So I'm talking about Standard vehicles with high end modules.
What if the current effectiveness of vehicles is a test run to see how strong 'maxed' vehicles with pilot suits should be. In other words, what if their intention is to ultimately nerf vehicles down at a later date, but buff them back up to where they are now IF the pilot is wearing a high level Pilot Suit.
Simply put:
Current Vehicles = Future Vehicles + Pilot Suit
Do you guys think this would be reasonable? You are giving CCP too much credit, this is just bad balancing on their part and whiny also the whiny tankers who didn't how to fit a tank just glass cannons. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:33:00 -
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it would go some way to excusing what CCP are all about atm, then again wtf knows with these mooks |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:39:00 -
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Even if it is not their original intention, I would like to know your guys' opinion about the concept in general, that future tanks should be nerfed down and the pilot suit bringing them back up to where they are now. Would you feel this is reasonable?
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:42:00 -
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The main benefit of the pilot suit would be the cooldown bonuses, right?
So if cooldowns were extended so that the current cooldowns are now the future cooldowns + maxed out pilot suit, then we'd just have people doing what they are now - riding their tank to the redline and calling in another to prematurely reset their cooldowns. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:46:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:The main benefit of the pilot suit would be the cooldown bonuses, right?
So if cooldowns were extended so that the current cooldowns are now the future cooldowns + maxed out pilot suit, then we'd just have people doing what they are now - riding their tank to the redline and calling in another to prematurely reset their cooldowns.
We don't know the benefits of the pilot suit. The ones that accidentally made it into the game were purely for testing at the moment and are not necessarily anything like the final product.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:22:00 -
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The pilot suit is ill conceived, next to impossible to balance, and robs light frames of a second option, while forcing vehicle users to dip into dropsuits.
It's also ridiculous that it's a light suit, basically the last type of suit you want to wear as a pilot because snipers. Every last bit of HP counts.
I pray the pilot suit is scrapped in favor of another ground variant and balanced vehicles.
Vids / O7
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The pilot suit is ill conceived, next to impossible to balance, and robs light frames of a second option, while forcing vehicle users to dip into dropsuits.
It's also ridiculous that it's a light suit, basically the last type of suit you want to wear as a pilot because snipers. Every last bit of HP counts.
I pray the pilot suit is scrapped in favor of another ground variant and balanced vehicles.
Dude if you are in a tank or dropship, you can't be shot out as the pilot! Why would you need anything other than a light suit?
The suit is designed to allow a vehcile to punch above its weight! However if they introduced them now without nerfing tanks, I'd walk out again!
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:28:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The pilot suit is ill conceived, next to impossible to balance, and robs light frames of a second option, while forcing vehicle users to dip into dropsuits.
It's also ridiculous that it's a light suit, basically the last type of suit you want to wear as a pilot because snipers. Every last bit of HP counts.
I pray the pilot suit is scrapped in favor of another ground variant and balanced vehicles. Dude if you are in a tank or dropship, you can't be shot out as the pilot! Why would you need anything other than a light suit? The suit is designed to allow a vehcile to punch above its weight! However if they introduced them now without nerfing tanks, I'd walk out again! Well LAVs are still boned, and you have to actually call that vehicle in. There have been plenty of times where even when I felt hidden in my redline I've been sniped at while calling in a vehicle, which is exactly why I never call in a vehicle without my heavy suit.
I just think that splitting things up this way is going to be a nightmare to balance when 1.7 has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that CCP doesn't know how to balance vehicles vs AV yet.
I'd rather they scrap the whole idea than slightly nerf tanks, then introduce pilot suits, which is exactly what will happen.
Vids / O7
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1685
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:36:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:The main benefit of the pilot suit would be the cooldown bonuses, right?
So if cooldowns were extended so that the current cooldowns are now the future cooldowns + maxed out pilot suit, then we'd just have people doing what they are now - riding their tank to the redline and calling in another to prematurely reset their cooldowns. that's stupid, waiting for modules to cool down takes less time
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1962
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:36:00 -
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TBH we dont even have proto tanks
So proto tanks plus proto pilot suits would be better than what we have now |
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