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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4764
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:21:00 -
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SCR is much better than the TAR. (TAR clip size: 18, Shots before SCR overheats: 18, but SCR has much more range and has a much higher DPS limit)
RR is much better than the Breach AR (Breach AR only does 20 DPS more than the RR for the first second, then the RR has 100 DPS over it. Also has larger clip size and more range)
Combat Rifle is much better than the Burst AR (Don't even need to explain).
And yet the ASCR, ACR, and ARR are godly and are arguably better than the AR?
ASCR - Red dot sight, tighter hip fire, higher alpha, larger clip, more range
ARR - More range, massive alpha damage, only drawback can be easily negated
ACR - An AR with more range
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
498
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:23:00 -
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Signed if this includes a range nerf on the god like AR |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4764
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:24:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Signed if this includes a range nerf on the god like AR
Only if all rifles get a nerf.
It's not just the Assault variants, the SCR, the CR and the RR are arguably better than the AR too, just that it's harder to compare since they don't behave the same.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1250
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:26:00 -
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Nerf them all by 15% except the AR nerf that 10%
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
498
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Signed if this includes a range nerf on the god like AR Only if all rifles get a nerf. It's not just the Assault variants, the SCR, the CR and the RR are arguably better than the AR too, just that it's harder to compare since they don't behave the same.
Arguably yes, fact remains the AR is the best weapon on the field. Most people are testing new rifles, they are getting a lot of screen time but the mathetically fact (and ofcourse a touch of the CCP madness) dictates the AR is still king.
Quickest point i can make is the RR strength is its range. 70m op, anything under 60m the AR still canes it. wtf. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
176
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:27:00 -
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+1, I tried to post something similar
but the playerbase on the forums seems to think the new weapons are fine
all four are too tough, it's that simple ......
hopefully some adjustments can be made now we have all variants to compare |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4767
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:28:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Signed if this includes a range nerf on the god like AR Only if all rifles get a nerf. It's not just the Assault variants, the SCR, the CR and the RR are arguably better than the AR too, just that it's harder to compare since they don't behave the same. Arguably yes, fact remains the AR is the best weapon on the field. Most people are testing new rifles, they are getting a lot of screen time but the mathetically fact (and ofcourse a touch of the CCP madness) dictates the AR is still king. Quickest point i can make is the RR strength is its range. 70m op, anything under 60m the AR still canes it. wtf.
Uhh...
RR is DOMINATING in close range, that tight hip fire is amazing for headshots.
CR can produce 620 DPS with minimal recoil.
SCR is... SCR, I don't even need to explain.
Show me your math how it wins.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1552
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:29:00 -
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yep I agree, the assault variants should be sub par to the assault rifle not superior.
the AR is a gun to. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7507
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:31:00 -
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Or we could just buff the AR variants...
Gallente weapons are supposed to be short range, but higher DPS, so I'd buff the rate of fire of the AR variants for more DPS and increase magazine size so they don't burn through ammo too fast. Just because the variants are meant to mimic the racial rifles doesn't meant they have to suck compared to them.
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CrotchGrab 360
610
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:32:00 -
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The new guns make the AR look like ass.
I haven't made a single kill with the AR since 1.7 |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4767
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:32:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Or we could just buff the AR variants...
Gallente weapons are supposed to be short range, but higher DPS, so I'd buff the rate of fir of the AR variants and increase magazine size. Just because the variants are meant to mimic the racial rifles doesn't meant they have to suck compared to them.
The word nerf attracts more attention to the forums.
The way of the forum is a weird one.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
176
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:33:00 -
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well the assault variants aren't necessarily supposed to match AR but as it is they are godly,
I want to see all 4 adjusted, but I am afraid of what CCP may change
I dont want to see the weapons under-perform but right now they are OP |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
502
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:34:00 -
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RR tight hip fire, did I read that right lol? |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4767
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:34:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:RR tight hip fire, did I read that right lol?
Indeed.
It has the tightest hip fire.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Saxbrin Shain
Ivory Vanguard
116
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:35:00 -
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Why does one weapon need to be simply better than others? Why can't they just be different?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1798
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:37:00 -
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Agreed.
If the Plasma rifle is the base for all Assault varients, it should be better then the others.
Amarr ScR=best single shot rifle
Caldari RR=best breach rifle
Minmatar CR=best burst rifle
Gallente AR/PR=best assault rifle
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
515
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:44:00 -
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Assault rail sucks...
Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4767
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:45:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Assault rail sucks...
You'd be surprised.
Dat range.
Dat hip fire.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8832
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:48:00 -
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Remove the sharpshooter skill first and let's see what's more effective than what at what range.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2325
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:49:00 -
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Assault combat rifle sucks unless you're aiming down sights the entire time. The clip size is horrible. Ammo is horrible. It's good for about 3 seconds then you're dead due to your clip being empty then having to reload.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4768
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:53:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Assault combat rifle sucks unless you're aiming down sights the entire time. The clip size is horrible. Ammo is horrible. It's good for about 3 seconds then you're dead due to your clip being empty then having to reload.
It also has the shortest reload time :)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
268
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:57:00 -
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One would still die while reloading also it apears the CR has spread while ADS even i found this to be unusual havent done any actual test to see the patern but it can miss when right on target and hit while off target by a bit which is either terrible lag or spread. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
529
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:09:00 -
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Sharpshooter needs to go - period.
ARR - more kick, you should have to ironsight it and they should increase the delay or drop damage some.
ACR - slightly more kick and more dispersion. Should need to be closer and focused firings
AScR - less damage
AR - less range or the fall off damage needs to drop significantly like the blaster installations. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
366
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:00:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Assault combat rifle sucks unless you're aiming down sights the entire time. The clip size is horrible. Ammo is horrible. It's good for about 3 seconds then you're dead due to your clip being empty then having to reload.
True it eats ammo like crazy but it let you kill pretty fast because of its insane rof. I use it on a scout and it is beast. But I tend to prefere the CR for its flexibility.. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
479
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:03:00 -
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Only good thing is the blueprints.
Assassination is my thing.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
958
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:04:00 -
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stay off my assault rifles!! people been trying to get them removed since day 1.. and now the excuse is because they are not good enough???? lols
I don't care if there is better rifles now, I love my assault rifles |
Subject 36
Pradox XVI
39
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:30:00 -
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Why not just use the good weapons instead of complaining? Get all weapons level 1 and you're golden. Problem solved.
Everybody Deserves A Respec.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4775
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:31:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Why not just use the good weapons instead of complaining? Get all weapons level 1 and you're golden. Problem solved.
By that logic heavies shouldn't be complaining about the HMG.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3639
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:38:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Why not just use the good weapons instead of complaining? Get all weapons level 1 and you're golden. Problem solved.
My god you're stupid. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
424
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:39:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Assault combat rifle sucks unless you're aiming down sights the entire time. The clip size is horrible. Ammo is horrible. It's good for about 3 seconds then you're dead due to your clip being empty then having to reload.
yes, but it sounds like an orgasm.
HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
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