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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:26:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129785&find=unread
* Improved HMG effectiveness at short/medium range.
While it was pushed back until tomorrow's downtime, lets hope CCP has made some serious changes to the way the HMG operates. I really do wish they would at least tell us what they're planning on doing, but I'm just happy they are finally doing something about it.
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teet sprinkles
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:33:00 -
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Keeping this on front page.....though not getting my hopes up.....CCP has screwed us heavies so much..... |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:38:00 -
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WOOOOOOOT EVERYONE ABOARD THE HEAVY TRAIN WOOOT WOOOOOT!!!!
now and all seriousness, about friggin time. However now to see if it something that might actually become OP or if the INCREASE IN EFFECTIVENESS is only going from Absolute garbage to semi-crap.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
337
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:42:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:WOOOOOOOT EVERYONE ABOARD THE HEAVY TRAIN WOOOT WOOOOOT!!!!
now and all seriousness, about friggin time. However now to see if it something that might actually become OP or if the INCREASE IN EFFECTIVENESS is only going from Absolute garbage to semi-crap.
That what scares me the most.
NO ONE know what CCP claim to be "increase effectiveness"
'cause the last time they did that, they changed the bonus of the HMG skill, giving a direct nerf to the Breach HMG.
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Stevez WingYip
NI Eve Corp
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:43:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129785&find=unread
* Improved HMG effectiveness at short/medium range.
While it was pushed back until tomorrow's downtime, lets hope CCP has made some serious changes to the way the HMG operates. I really do wish they would at least tell us what they're planning on doing, but I'm just happy they are finally doing something about it.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4761
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:43:00 -
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Probably a fix to the HMG being laser accurate.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Musta Tornius
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
790
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:45:00 -
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I'll check the numbers as soon as we get the updated SDE tomorrow, can't check more than dmg, overheat and ranges though.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
416
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:45:00 -
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watch it just be muzzle flash reduction =.=
TBA IS NOT A NAME!
At least give the heavy laser a name so we know you MIGHT be working on it.
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
20
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:56:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Probably a fix to the HMG being laser accurate.
When 1.7 hit they gave HMG a slight cone of damg, so they've technically fixed the laser problem.
The damg on this spread however has not been very noticeable against shield tanked suits and can be out strafed in CQC.
The hip fire on ARs. CRs, and SR seem to have higher of hit recognition to damg ratio than HMG. So this could be very exciting to see if this actually make Med frames afraid of running into heavies in CQC.
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Vexen Arc
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:00:00 -
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I would really, really appreciate it if a Dev came in and told us what the change is going to be. Smart money is on the cone of fire fix, of course, but I'll honestly take just about anything at this point.
And if this fix is good? If it makes the HMG viable again?
It would be a Christmas miracle. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4650
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:03:00 -
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Who knows what that means... by the wording I think the person who wrote that has no idea either. Someone probably said "yo, we're making the HMG better... LOL IKR?!!!... Anyway, just post it on the forums so people can stop crying about it."
And here we are, clueless to what this "improvement" is. I hope it's a decent buff or improvement. Even though I don't play DUST again, I come here to see if there's anything done to help the heavies that still play the class. Maybe this time there might be some "THE HMG IS OP!!!!" threads, then I'll know CCP did a good job.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
122
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:06:00 -
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teet sprinkles wrote:Keeping this on front page.....though not getting my hopes up.....CCP has screwed us heavies so much.....
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:16:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:When 1.7 hit they gave HMG a slight cone of damg, so they've technically fixed the laser problem.
They didn't. Every time I've whipped out my HMG since 1.7 I've tested it, and that tiny dot needs to be on target to do damage.
Hope this is the fix we've been looking for!
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:20:00 -
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Don't expect a miracle. I'm betting a rifle will still be overall more useful and effective until proven otherwise.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:46:00 -
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If they can make the Combat Rifle dispersion work, they can make the HMG dispersion work.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4650
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:48:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:If they can make the Combat Rifle dispersion work, they can make the HMG dispersion work.
2 years later.... here we are.
1 broken AI gun, 1 nerfed AV weapon, 1 race for suits.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:52:00 -
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Heavies will now be able to ramp hills with nitrous injectors and the HMG will fire 'D' batteries at 1200 rpm. They nerfed swarms bacause the HMG is the new AV.
Seriously?.............I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Either way, long overdue, I hope it actually brings the heavy to the forefront of point defense. |
Sleekit1
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
4
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:23:00 -
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So excited
I can't wait to blooter someone in the puss with my MH-82, Boundless or MLR :-)
(The Jocks will understand!) |
Chesty Ranger
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:09:00 -
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Crossing fingers for something good... |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Who knows what that means... by the wording I think the person who wrote that has no idea either. Someone probably said "yo, we're making the HMG better... LOL IKR?!!!... Anyway, just post it on the forums so people can stop crying about it."
And here we are, clueless to what this "improvement" is. I hope it's a decent buff or improvement. Even though I don't play DUST anymore, I come here to see if there's anything done to help the heavies that still play the class. Maybe this time there might be some "THE HMG IS OP!!!!" threads, then I'll know CCP did a good job.
I definitely feel you, and you're probably right Frame probably has no idea as to what they are actually changing to the HMG, and the sad part is they probably will never tell us, and we'll have to figure it out on our own.
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TheBLAZZED
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:19:00 -
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"Heavy with hmg? Run for your life!!!"- me in codex
"Heavy with hmg? I didn't know these things still existed. How cute"- me now
Hope you guys get the fix tanks did. Y'all deserve to be the terror on the battlefield once again. At least in cqc situations. |
Snagman 313
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:23:00 -
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Heh I saw this earlier today and posted this in C7 forum section but I thought the rest of us old Gloryday heavies might find this funny too.
HMG buff.
Hahaha!!! Apparently they have had technical issues and it'll be in another couple of days. I bet the issue is the server saying "Buff the HMG???? Ahh they must mean Nerf....... No they're saying buff...... But it can't be buffed...... My nodes won't be able to take all the QQing....... I'm not going to buff it CCP........ No I'm not doing it....... You can't make me....... Fine I'll throw a spaz and shut down then!....-Tranquility offline-" or something like that!!!
But seriously nice to get a range buff since the HMG is only good from 10m to 20m really.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
627
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:23:00 -
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TheBLAZZED wrote:"Heavy with hmg? Run for your life!!!"- me in codex
"Heavy with hmg? I didn't know these things still existed. How cute"- me now
Hope you guys get the fix tanks did. Y'all deserve to be the terror on the battlefield once again. At least in cqc situations.
It's funny because in codex we also had more choices in dropsuits. We could either have the type A which was armor tanked or the type B which was pretty much the amarr frame is. Now we are stuck with the amarr frame, funny how while everyone was getting new content they actually removed content for the heavy.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
627
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:24:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:Heh I saw this earlier today and posted this in C7 forum section but I thought the rest of us old Gloryday heavies might find this funny too.
HMG buff.
Hahaha!!! Apparently they have had technical issues and it'll be in another couple of days. I bet the issue is the server saying "Buff the HMG???? Ahh they must mean Nerf....... No they're saying buff...... But it can't be buffed...... My nodes won't be able to take all the QQing....... I'm not going to buff it CCP........ No I'm not doing it....... You can't make me....... Fine I'll throw a spaz and shut down then!....-Tranquility offline-" or something like that!!!
But seriously nice to get a range buff since the HMG is only good from 10m to 20m really.
Heavy is supposed to be effective all the way out to 30m but 10m is a much more accurate description.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9034
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:25:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Heh I saw this earlier today and posted this in C7 forum section but I thought the rest of us old Gloryday heavies might find this funny too.
HMG buff.
Hahaha!!! Apparently they have had technical issues and it'll be in another couple of days. I bet the issue is the server saying "Buff the HMG???? Ahh they must mean Nerf....... No they're saying buff...... But it can't be buffed...... My nodes won't be able to take all the QQing....... I'm not going to buff it CCP........ No I'm not doing it....... You can't make me....... Fine I'll throw a spaz and shut down then!....-Tranquility offline-" or something like that!!!
But seriously nice to get a range buff since the HMG is only good from 10m to 20m really. Heavy is supposed to be effective all the way out to 30m but 10m is a much more accurate description. Oh boy a whole 30 meters
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Hawkings Greenback
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:26:00 -
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teet sprinkles wrote:Keeping this on front page.....though not getting my hopes up.....CCP has screwed us heavies so much.....
More heavies please CCP, make it happen, make the fix. Being a logi isnt the same without heavies to rep while they carve the insides out of red dots.
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DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:36:00 -
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i really hope they make it OP and everyone specs into it and then the nerf it and then everyones like
" WTF I NEED RESPEC"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
And history will repeat itself agian
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:52:00 -
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secrecy is the first step in @ss covering
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:53:00 -
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When I first started playing DUST a heavy could make a whole squad of meds and lights run for cover, I'd like to see them take their rightful place as the most fearsome dropsuit on the battlefield. |
Seigfried Warheit
114
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:00:00 -
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HMG is OP nerf it to hell....oh wait Im suppose to wait til after..re-read what I wrote tomorrow |
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:17:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:secrecy is the first step in @ss covering
Oh yea? Why don't you ask the U.S. government how well that's working out for them.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
428
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:20:00 -
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If history is anything to go by, then I can't wait to be disappointed... |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
878
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:22:00 -
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meh. don't get your panties in a bunch.
i promise well still mow your fat asses down no problem.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
116
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:22:00 -
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Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4654
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:35:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:meh. don't get your panties in a bunch. i promise well still mow your fat asses down no problem.
Assault players weren't saying this in Chromosome... in fact all they were doing is crying about the HMG.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
882
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:40:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:meh. don't get your panties in a bunch. i promise well still mow your fat asses down no problem. Assault players weren't saying this in Chromosome... in fact all they were doing is crying about the HMG. i'm actually a scout, and i know. HMGs were a force to be feared in beta. i remember being a noob and truly fearing heavies.
but the heavies nowadays are generally stupid and just sit still while shooting expecting to be an invincible wall.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:07:00 -
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This is all I needed to hear to get my hopes up about Dust again. I log on once a week for a couple battles right now. A simple HMG fix will have me playing regularly again. |
Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
394
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:15:00 -
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Don't let us twinkie lovers down CCP Santa!
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
631
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:31:00 -
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Now all we need is to know what they are actually trying to fix.
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jamstar saa187
the third day Public Disorder.
63
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:37:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:watch it just be muzzle flash reduction =.=
sadly, im dreading this. this was actually my first thought when i saw the announcement this morning. |
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