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MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 66	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:55:00 - [1] - Quote Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 670	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:57:00 - [2] - Quote ? What is a Boundless Assault Rifle? Is that faction specific and better than others or... My logi-code.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1747	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:59:00 - [3] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either.
Tiberius Ernaga State Patriots Templis Dragonaors 5	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:59:00 - [4] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. 700 hp downed in a few seconds *Closed beta vet* Join State Patriots channel and corp for Caldari and Amarr faction warfare.
MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 66	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:01:00 - [5] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: ? What is a Boundless Assault Rifle? Is that faction specific and better than others or... New Assault rifle, third tier. I guess.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2252	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:06:00 - [6] - Quote Being a heavy doesn't mean invincibility. I can't say how many times I saw a heavy firing away and just standing there. He's not behind cover and he's just standing there. What do I do? I shimmy left and right while I lay fire on that nice enlarged hit box of his. There's no way he can move, being the big boy that he is, to avoid my shots. Downed heavy. You gotta play smart with a heavy. There's guys out there wrecking havoc with a heavy. You guys should stop getting mad because you got yourself killed. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1975	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:06:00 - [7] - Quote Proto commando has even less hp and dies even faster. Get on my level son :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 66	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:08:00 - [8] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: ? What is a Boundless Assault Rifle? Is that faction specific and better than others or... Sorry, the Proto, Combat Rifle.
MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 67	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:10:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Being a heavy doesn't mean invincibility. I can't say how many times I saw a heavy firing away and just standing there. He's not behind cover and he's just standing there. What do I do? I shimmy left and right while I lay fire on that nice enlarged hit box of his. There's no way he can move, being the big boy that he is, to avoid my shots. Downed heavy. You gotta play smart with a heavy. There's guys out there wrecking havoc with a heavy. You guys should stop getting mad because you got yourself killed. I'm not complaining about dying, I can manage an Heavy. What I am complaining about is the New Combat Rifle Proto. Thank you.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2254	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:14:00 - [10] - Quote So you're complaining about the rifle but you're not upset that you died by it? C'mon now, you're complaining about you dying as a heavy to a CR proto. You start off by saying MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. You're jumping points to win a internet debate. You're complaining that you're a heavy that died by a CR proto. If not, you're just as confused as I am by what you trying to imply. If you're complaining about the CR, it doesn't make sense. A Duvolle killed you just as quick. A SCR killed you just as quick. What's really the difference between those two and the CR proto? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]

MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 67	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:20:00 - [11] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So you're complaining about the rifle but you're not upset that you died by it? C'mon now, you're complaining about you dying as a heavy to a CR proto. You start off by saying MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. You're jumping points to win a internet debate. You're complaining that you're a heavy that died by a CR proto. If not, you're just as confused as I am by what you trying to imply. If you're complaining about the CR, it doesn't make sense. A Duvolle killed you just as quick. A SCR killed you just as quick. What's really the difference between those two and the CR proto? Actually I did not start this topic to win anything. Just my opinion of what CCP did with the Combat Assault. I have played beta, saw many OP weapons, but what I do not understand is, with all the guns in DUST, why is it that CCP cannot come up with some balanced guns... That is my real question.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 476	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:20:00 - [12] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either. CCP has been quoted to be working on the HMG, patience they just released the biggest patch they have launched since Uprising 1.0. Suit's and gun's in general need a rebalance. But i would rather the Heavies get their Gallente Heavy and Minmatar Heavy suits and Scouts get their Amarr and Caldari suits. The Heavy get their Heavy Laser weapon and Heavy blaster weapon and heavy rail weapon..... We keep crying about nerf this gun buff this gun for over a year and we have just wasted a year going in a giant circle... let's add all the items that where intended then let's worry about some gun balancing.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1978	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:26:00 - [13] - Quote Bethhy wrote: .....The Heavy get their Heavy Laser weapon and Heavy blaster weapon and heavy rail weapon..... I do believe the heavy rail weapon is actually the forge gun.....just sayin :) "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1553	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:36:00 - [14] - Quote I knew this patch was going to be garbage and vowed to take a break til 1.8 a while back. Luckily, circumstances presented themselves that have allowed me to not even be able to login for a month or even download 1.7 It's been awesome. Alyssa Milano.
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 1969	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:43:00 - [15] - Quote CCP nerfed my TAR in 1.7 for unknown reasons, so the Combat Rifle would better stay a good weapon. I WON'T join the happy full-auto AR brigade. What am I supposed to do, throw nanohives at enemies? 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1982	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:46:00 - [16] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: CCP nerfed my TAR in 1.7 for unknown reasons, so the Combat Rifle would better stay a good weapon. I WON'T join the happy full-auto AR brigade. What am I supposed to do, throw nanohives at enemies? If your me you toss your lifeless corpse in a commando suit at them :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 1969	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:48:00 - [17] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: CCP nerfed my TAR in 1.7 for unknown reasons, so the Combat Rifle would better stay a good weapon. I WON'T join the happy full-auto AR brigade. What am I supposed to do, throw nanohives at enemies? If your me you toss your lifeless corpse in a commando suit at them :p LOL 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1292	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:52:00 - [18] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either. Implying you live longer against other weapons. Ttk in general is way too short for a game with a complex fitting system like that of dust.
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 63	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:15:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Being a heavy doesn't mean invincibility. I can't say how many times I saw a heavy firing away and just standing there. He's not behind cover and he's just standing there. What do I do? I shimmy left and right while I lay fire on that nice enlarged hit box of his. There's no way he can move, being the big boy that he is, to avoid my shots. Downed heavy. You gotta play smart with a heavy. There's guys out there wrecking havoc with a heavy. You guys should stop getting mad because you got yourself killed. Finally someone understands.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8998	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:18:00 - [20] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either. Implying you live longer against other weapons. Ttk in general is way too short for a game with a complex fitting system like that of dust. What "other weapons"? The only other weapon that has a fast TTK that probably shouldn't is the smg, everything everything else fits pretty good along the lines of what it's supposed to do. Generally speaking if you're taking more than 2 whole seconds to kill your opponent with your rifle, either you're really really bad, or they're really really good. It's simple math. Apply headshots for taste. Vids / O7

Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2256	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:36:00 - [21] - Quote Solitar Greywatch wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Being a heavy doesn't mean invincibility. I can't say how many times I saw a heavy firing away and just standing there. He's not behind cover and he's just standing there. What do I do? I shimmy left and right while I lay fire on that nice enlarged hit box of his. There's no way he can move, being the big boy that he is, to avoid my shots. Downed heavy. You gotta play smart with a heavy. There's guys out there wrecking havoc with a heavy. You guys should stop getting mad because you got yourself killed. Finally someone understands. Had a great time running in a squad with you guys. Very organized. If you guys want to squad up again or need a slot to fill, look me up. o7 Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 861	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:41:00 - [22] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Combat rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. you mean 5 bursts right? because 3 shots from a combat rifle would do a little over 100 damage. 100 x 5 = 500. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and make it 700 instead of 500. that still leaves you with 650 armor. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 132	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:41:00 - [23] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: CCP nerfed my TAR in 1.7 for unknown reasons, so the Combat Rifle would better stay a good weapon. I WON'T join the happy full-auto AR brigade. What am I supposed to do, throw nanohives at enemies? Having been nerfed, I know what you mean, brother. And I lolled at your last line. Liked.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 132	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:43:00 - [24] - Quote p.s. to the OP, doesn't the combat rifle shoot like a 1000 rounds a minute, how could you possibly count?
CommanderBolt Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 428	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:20:00 - [25] - Quote To be honest after coming back to the game after a few months it does feel VERY MUCH like everyone dies much faster now. I have been rolling a high damage high hitpoint fit on a proto amarr heavy suit and even with 600 shields and nearly 900 armour I still go down like a sack of poop. I miss how it was. Right now I find the game is vastly more fun and engaging as a tanker.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1297	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:30:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either. Implying you live longer against other weapons. Ttk in general is way too short for a game with a complex fitting system like that of dust. What "other weapons"? The only other weapon that has a fast TTK that probably shouldn't is the smg, everything else fits pretty good along the lines of what it's supposed to do. Generally speaking if you're taking more than 2 whole seconds to kill your opponent with your rifle, either you're really really bad, or they're really really good. (or they have someone repping them) It's simple math. Apply headshots for taste. Other weapons like 2-Hit-Forgegun or the Assault scrambler rifle. How can an assault scrambler rifle tear through my 500 armor in less than 2 seconds? Shields I could understand, but it's a laser weapon.
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 184	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:39:00 - [27] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Combat rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. you mean 5 bursts right? because 3 shots from a combat rifle would do a little over 100 damage. 100 x 5 = 500. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and make it 700 instead of 500. that still leaves you with 650 armor. He meant 5 BURSTS2DAFACE, which in turn is 15 ROUNDS2DAFACE. Right now im laughing at how at how he's complaining that he shouldn't die from BAMBAMBAM 15 SHAWTS2DAFACE. No one ever pays me in gum :<
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 425	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:43:00 - [28] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Being a heavy doesn't mean invincibility. I can't say how many times I saw a heavy firing away and just standing there. He's not behind cover and he's just standing there. What do I do? I shimmy left and right while I lay fire on that nice enlarged hit box of his. There's no way he can move, being the big boy that he is, to avoid my shots. Downed heavy. You gotta play smart with a heavy. There's guys out there wrecking havoc with a heavy. You guys should stop getting mad because you got yourself killed. So a heavy should be on the move. Its a nice idea but very impractical with how hard it already is to aim a hmg. Also heavies shouldnt be invincable but we should be able to withstand concentrated small arms fire and we can't. We spend even more sp on our suit than any other class and we get shafted. Rather than making the SP sink the drawback we pay for the suit in limited mobility as well.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1298	Posted - 2013.12.17 10:29:00 - [29] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: To be honest after coming back to the game after a few months it does feel VERY MUCH like everyone dies much faster now. I have been rolling a high damage high hitpoint fit on a proto amarr heavy suit and even with 600 shields and nearly 900 armour I still go down like a sack of poop. I miss how it was. Right now I find the game is vastly more fun and engaging as a tanker. Me too. I have 19 Million SP in Infantry but I found myself speccing into tanks now because I want my fitting to actually matter. Doesn't matter if I use Complex Shield Extenders or militia extenders. Same goes for infantry armor. I can barely take any hits anyways.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 859	Posted - 2013.12.17 11:12:00 - [30] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Combat rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. it fires at 20 rounds a second. How did you count 5?

Buster Friently Rosen Association 1749	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:58:00 - [31] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: Yes, done till 1.8 comes out. I have Heavy 700 Shield/ 650 Armor.... 5 shots from Boundless Assault rifle and I am dead.... Ya, with a load-out of 100'000ISK it is useless for me to even play. I like the game, I'll be back, but not with this ridiculous Assault Rifle. Thank you. The game has been AR 514 for well over a year. Apparently that's the game that CCP wants to make. Frankly, I don't know why they bothered coding most of the other weapons. Either way, it's not the game that I signed up for either. Implying you live longer against other weapons. Ttk in general is way too short for a game with a complex fitting system like that of dust. You do. You are right, however; that the TTK is way too short.


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