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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:15:00 -
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Pilot suit tab and "full range of dropsuits soon, not SoonGäó..."
Wow.
2 seasons passed still falls under either version?
But, thanks for the untested knee jerk vehicle balance attempt.
Totally worth it...
(That's sarcasm, in case it didn't translate well.)
Alyssa Milano.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1540
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:06:00 -
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So, Destiny Beta Soon?
Sooner than SoonGäó, that's for sure.
See you there.
Alyssa Milano.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4725
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:08:00 -
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With how incredibly OP vehicles are, imagine pilot suit tanks O_O
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8926
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:10:00 -
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I seriously think they need to scrap the pilot suit and come up with something else. Augmenting vehicles further will not end well.
Vids / O7
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
918
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:14:00 -
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Logistics suit == pilot suit
Makes more sense than a fricking light suit.
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
465
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:17:00 -
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what if CCP is using this as a test for the pilot suits, and what we are using are tanks with pilot suit bonuses built in?????????? |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:20:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:what if CCP is using this as a test for the pilot suits, and what we are using are tanks with pilot suit bonuses built in??????????
Or, what if they're just completely incompetent?
Any reason to believe otherwise?
Any?
Alyssa Milano.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
466
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:21:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:what if CCP is using this as a test for the pilot suits, and what we are using are tanks with pilot suit bonuses built in?????????? Or, what if they're just completely incompetent? Any reason to believe otherwise? Any?
its definatly on purpose
CCP wants vehicles to be a thing, seen in every game as more then just a taxi |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1543
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:29:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:its definatly on purpose
CCP wants vehicles to be a thing, seen in every game as more then just a taxi
Understandable.
But, they have had thousands of suggestions (and a few good ones) representing hundreds of thousands of hours of gameplay experience and ignored or scoffed at all of them.
They would rather go by the rules and suggestions of a Dungeon Master's Guide than that of actual experience.
Alyssa Milano.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
466
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:34:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its definatly on purpose
CCP wants vehicles to be a thing, seen in every game as more then just a taxi Understandable. But, they have had thousands of suggestions (and a few good ones) representing hundreds of thousands of hours of gameplay experience and ignored or scoffed at all of them. They would rather go by the rules and suggestions of a Dungeon Master's Guide than that of actual experience.
..... you realise this WAS a player suggestion right? |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1543
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:43:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:its definatly on purpose
CCP wants vehicles to be a thing, seen in every game as more then just a taxi Understandable. But, they have had thousands of suggestions (and a few good ones) representing hundreds of thousands of hours of gameplay experience and ignored or scoffed at all of them. They would rather go by the rules and suggestions of a Dungeon Master's Guide than that of actual experience. ..... you realise this WAS a player suggestion right?
No.
This is absolute nonsense.
What was a player suggestion?
I can see where some of it could have been derived from player input, but the level at which it was executed was a reflection of poor decision making, a lack of accountability, and proper testing.
Alyssa Milano.
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
510
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:45:00 -
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I think the last thing we need right now is something to buff vehicles!!!. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1543
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:55:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:I think the last thing we need right now is something to buff vehicles!!!.
I really could not care less about the Pilot suits.
I want the Gallente Heavies they've waved under our noses for nearly a ******* year.
The commentary was more about how sloppy and incomplete they are with old ideas before moving on and ruining some other aspect of the game.
Alyssa Milano.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1544
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:22:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:your making a whole lot of assumptions without realising the amount of work that went into things.
I have yet to make any assumptions.
I have made observations.
Who cares how much work they put in if it's all **** work?
And, tracking data and stats to come to a conclusion is a fouled idea, since their stat trackers have been proven flawed time and time again since Open Beta.
Alyssa Milano.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
843
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:With how incredibly OP vehicles are, imagine pilot suit tanks O_O
vehicles aren't OP. the number of them are.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
584
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:29:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Cat Merc wrote:With how incredibly OP vehicles are, imagine pilot suit tanks O_O vehicles aren't OP. the number of them are.
A biscuit gains valor by sacrificing itself and allowing gravy to be poured on it. By sacrificing itself, it prevents the other biscuits from suffering the same fate. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8932
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:32:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Cat Merc wrote:With how incredibly OP vehicles are, imagine pilot suit tanks O_O vehicles aren't OP. the number of them are. A biscuit gains valor by sacrificing itself and allowing gravy to be poured on it. By sacrificing itself, it prevents the other biscuits from suffering the same fate.
Not true.
I eat all the biscuits.
Your argument is invalid.
Vids / O7
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steadyhand amarr
Scions of Athra
2098
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:42:00 -
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Players as a rule hate fighting things they cant kill. Dust very design genrates unwinnable encounters as Its minute to minute gameplay with a punishment of trying to do somthing about it or withdrawing to a more favourable encounter.
So pretty much the opposite of eve-online where u can both pick your fight or withdraw saving u isk if it does not go ur way.
So what im trying to say is the core designs of Dust514 are setup in a way that are complety counterproductive to encourging teambased actions or enjoyable balanced encounters
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
469
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:48:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:
So what im trying to say is the core designs of Dust514 are setup in a way that are complety counterproductive to encourging teambased actions or enjoyable balanced encounters
team based actions are the REASON there arnt balanced encounters....
if everyone was running around like lunatics as infantry most encounters would be balanced (not counting personal skill)
its the team thing thats aparently destroying the game for you
i suggest you overtake your hatred of teamwork and use it yourself, bringing balance back to those encounters :P
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5903
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:58:00 -
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Oh shush, you.
Try waiting since 2011 for the damn door to open.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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RedZer0 MK1
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
132
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Posted - 2013.12.16 18:31:00 -
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How would the pilot suit even work? Add dropsuit modules that affect vehicles? Why, so pilots have to skill vehicle AND dropsuits. Would they even hve weapons on their suit? If you are a pilot without a vehicle, something is wrong. Additionally, if you were to ground fight, wouldn't you use a better combat orientated suit anyway. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8953
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Posted - 2013.12.16 18:32:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:How would the pilot suit even work? Add dropsuit modules that affect vehicles? Why, so pilots have to skill vehicle AND dropsuits. Would they even hve weapons on their suit? If you are a pilot without a vehicle, something is wrong. Additionally, if you were to ground fight, wouldn't you use a better combat orientated suit anyway.
The whole idea of the pilot suit was ill conceived and I pray that it gets scrapped in favor of another infantry variant, so each frame has 2 to work with.
Vids / O7
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1545
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Posted - 2013.12.16 18:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:RedZer0 MK1 wrote:How would the pilot suit even work? Add dropsuit modules that affect vehicles? Why, so pilots have to skill vehicle AND dropsuits. Would they even hve weapons on their suit? If you are a pilot without a vehicle, something is wrong. Additionally, if you were to ground fight, wouldn't you use a better combat orientated suit anyway. The whole idea of the pilot suit was ill conceived and I pray that it gets scrapped in favor of another infantry variant, so each frame has 2 to work with.
A variant of the 'Black Eagle' Commando Scouts would be nice.
But, yeah, skills and a specific suit seems kinda dumb.
Unless they were unarmed (maybe a sidearm?) and were the only way to occupy a gunner's seat - which would be a nice fix to the vehicle lock situation.
Alyssa Milano.
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RedZer0 MK1
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:06:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:RedZer0 MK1 wrote:How would the pilot suit even work? Add dropsuit modules that affect vehicles? Why, so pilots have to skill vehicle AND dropsuits. Would they even hve weapons on their suit? If you are a pilot without a vehicle, something is wrong. Additionally, if you were to ground fight, wouldn't you use a better combat orientated suit anyway. The whole idea of the pilot suit was ill conceived and I pray that it gets scrapped in favor of another infantry variant, so each frame has 2 to work with. A variant of the 'Black Eagle' Commando Scouts would be nice. But, yeah, skills and a specific suit seems kinda dumb. Unless they were unarmed (maybe a sidearm?) and were the only way to occupy a gunner's seat - which would be a nice fix to the vehicle lock situation.
Funny you said that, I suggested making the commando a medium frame instead of a heavy. Since they don't work as being heavy. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1551
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:06:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:Funny you said that, I suggested making the commando a medium frame instead of a heavy. Since they don't work as being heavy.
I'm actually going Proto Commando next time I'm in the game.
I think they need a slot added to each tier and maybe the ability to carry 2 grenade types (flux, locus, or AV - not 2 of the same) to make them the equivalent of a FatLogi.
Alyssa Milano.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
683
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:12:00 -
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Commandos need two heavy weapon slots :)
Maybe add 1-2 more module slots across tiers
Buff movement speed.. a lot.. but keep the big hitbox, ****** shield regen, no grenade, massive base melee damage.
Now that's a ******* commando :P |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
712
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:15:00 -
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Pilot suits were scrapped I believe...Why would you want one anyway? After your tank is destroyed you'd be as easy to pick off as a ripe strawberry.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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