DUST Search - People that complain about tanks have to watch this

Doc Noah wrote:

He's the same guy that said pre-nerf flaylocks werent OP, all while replacing his primary with a flaylock for his last 10 videos prior to nerf and getting scores of 5-10.0 k/d dual wielding FLs.
He already lost his credibility as just another FOTM user and defender in my eyes.

Its sad really that he does bring up some points about balancing, but when it comes to balancing, he bandwagons with the current FOTM.

Anyways on the topic of the vid

The only thing that came close to killing him was a railgun installations, which would include railgun tanks since they operate the same way, which isnt an AV infantry weapon.

He laughs at the idea of MLT SL users complaining on the forums when there are plenty and plenty of legitimate PRO Complex Dmg SL users on the forum saying how you would need 2+ just to take out a tanker that isnt completely clueless at tanking.

He runs away from a lone FGer with full HP and fresh hardeners and used shield booster when his shields were at full hp which leads me to believe he still has repressed memories of pre-1.7 tanking and doesnt fully grasp the current tank's iteration.

He blatantly admits that the only counter for a tank should be with another tank and that it should stay that way. I guess AV should be removed and the only counter for an LAV is another LAV and dropships with dropships.

Not making a compelling argument when he makes yet another vid that proves what he's trying to argue against.

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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1791	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:12:00 - [31] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I just think armour reps are still too strong for tanks. If a tank is not glowing and I unload 5-7 proto swarms with 2-3 complex dmg mods, they shouldn't be able to shrug it off so easily and come back fighting so quickly. Armour tanks were meant to be the stand and deliver tank that has to stay out of a fight because of the rep time. Now it seems like Shield tanks have to sit out longer. Edited. thats "rep stacking" 1 rep is fine, 2 is another story I would be fine with rep stacking, but losing armour plates doesn't seem to be a problem so long as you have high enough reps. @Takahiro, 3 tanks only takes 3 soldiers off the field. Not really crippling the ground game. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8926	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:15:00 - [32] - Quote What incentive is there to kill militia tanks? You have to coordinate and bring out high end gear just in the hopes to kill a tank that can be called in 3 more times before making that player go ISK negative for the match, of which you will receive pretty much nothing for killing. If tanks actually cost ISK and SP to use, it would be much less of a problem. Curiously, note how often when a player says that tanks are fine, they are in fact, a tanker. Hmmmm, a clue? Vids / O7
Green Living Scions of Athra 1056	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:18:00 - [33] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: I like Pyrex but I think he's overstating the ease with which tanks can be destroyed. I run proto swarms, so my position on this isn't unbiased either, but I feel that if a tanker is stupid enough to sit around for me to launch ALL of the proto swarms I can carry (6 at present), that should be more significant to them than it is at the moment. Currently, they can drive straight at me when I launch the first one from swarm range and be on top of me, locking me down if I'm in suitable cover or just parking their tank on me if I was using a hill. Even if I empty everything I have, they're still unwilling to explode. That said, I don't think it's as bad as everyone is saying. I think we're close. Yeah, I spent many matches with Proto Swarms and Lai Dai's trying the same thing with little luck. I also agree that we're close to achieving balance.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8926	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:19:00 - [34] - Quote calvin b wrote: I can give two S***'s about tanks. I will keep running my LAV into them and if I do this enough I hope to drain enough ISK they quit trying to spam so many tanks in one battle. Tanks are basically free now bro, you won't be draining anyone's ISK anytime soon Vids / O7
Omni-Soul 2Shitz 1Giggle 5	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:24:00 - [35] - Quote I honestly think it is simple to destroy tanks it's not hard to work together as a squad and conduct an attack on a tank. If your just running torward them like a blueberry tossing AV because your pissed you lost your proto suit then of course your going down. Keep a level head and have one guy pull out a forge another a swarm and hell if your wanting go try and be the hero and go remote it too. If your STILL having problems killing the supid thing then do the smart thing and hit it with a suicide remote rigged LAV with a fuel injector. Many of the tanks used in tank spamming are pure milita...sometimes they will have a "lead tank" which will be the only tanker who is actually skilled into being a tanker. Don't get mad either if you don't kill the tank that match so long as you push them back and hold your objectives then your doing your job. Nothing better then killing a proto with a full milita suit. https://dust514.com/recruit/o8Fojm/
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 238	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:25:00 - [36] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: calvin b wrote: I can give two S***'s about tanks. I will keep running my LAV into them and if I do this enough I hope to drain enough ISK they quit trying to spam so many tanks in one battle. Tanks are basically free now bro, you won't be draining anyone's ISK anytime soon lav's are free, who wins free vs isk
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 238	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:29:00 - [37] - Quote i like where the likes fall in this thread
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8926	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:36:00 - [38] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: calvin b wrote: I can give two S***'s about tanks. I will keep running my LAV into them and if I do this enough I hope to drain enough ISK they quit trying to spam so many tanks in one battle. Tanks are basically free now bro, you won't be draining anyone's ISK anytime soon lav's are free, who wins free vs isk Who wins, the guy who kills himself or the who got killed after getting 20 kills with his free death taxi? Vids / O7
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1337	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:37:00 - [39] - Quote Doc Noah wrote: He's the same guy that said pre-nerf flaylocks werent OP, all while replacing his primary with a flaylock for his last 10 videos prior to nerf and getting scores of 5-10.0 k/d dual wielding FLs. He already lost his credibility as just another FOTM user and defender in my eyes. Its sad really that he does bring up some points about balancing, but when it comes to balancing, he bandwagons with the current FOTM. Anyways on the topic of the vid The only thing that came close to killing him was a railgun installations, which would include railgun tanks since they operate the same way, which isnt an AV infantry weapon. He laughs at the idea of MLT SL users complaining on the forums when there are plenty and plenty of legitimate PRO Complex Dmg SL users on the forum saying how you would need 2+ just to take out a tanker that isnt completely clueless at tanking. He runs away from a lone FGer with full HP and fresh hardeners and used shield booster when his shields were at full hp which leads me to believe he still has repressed memories of pre-1.7 tanking and doesnt fully grasp the current tank's iteration. He blatantly admits that the only counter for a tank should be with another tank and that it should stay that way. I guess AV should be removed and the only counter for an LAV is another LAV and dropships with dropships. Not making a compelling argument when he makes yet another vid that proves what he's trying to argue against. couldn't have said it better. Makes me wonder if dust is his first FPS game.
Sextus Hardcock Blackwater Society 178	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:03:00 - [40] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Maybe making the blaster turret less effective against infantry (cause it'a the infantry killer) would be a good thing? I honeatly don't know. That's CCP's job This

calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1535	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:21:00 - [41] - Quote the top 7 players on their side died 3 times. he crushed them without resistance, they tried to bring in tanks and got squashed. you picked a ** ** video to try and prove your point of balance. trust me his arguments aren't wrong, and I do believe the tank presence should be strong, but this build is by far not how it should be done.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 373	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:30:00 - [42] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Everyone here thinks they should be soloing tanks. "yeah i think tanks should still be weak enough to be soloed. Its not fair that it takes two people to kill one tank." A militia tank should be deathly afraid of running into a proto AV user. That simply isn't the case anymore. Easy fix: 1. Nerf the militia tanks while keeping them at about 75k ISK. Make it possible to lose one or two a match and still come out ISK positive. 2. Leave the swarm damage as it currently stands, but bring back the lock-on range to at least 300 meters. 3. Fix tank speed. 4. Exponentially increase the price of tank fittings; as I previously stated, a militia tank should be cheap and not very durable whereas an ubertank should cost a pretty penny while being able to fend for itself. Due to the lack of actual tank options (i.e. Soma, Sica, etc.) the cost of a tank should be determined by the equipment it uses, so a "proto" tank would be a standard tank with proto fittings. Life is killing me.


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