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RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:48:00 -
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I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. |
RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:58:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:RydogV wrote:I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. What do AVers get for "chasing" a tank away? Nothing. No kill means no WP. No WP means less profit. Less profit means you can't AFFORD to run the only AV that actually has an effect on vehicles(proto). Not everyone has a corporate sugardaddy.
What do you get? You get the win. A win pays out more than a loss, every time. There is profit in a win. |
RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:00:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:RydogV wrote:I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. See guys, here's a reasonable reply. Why can't you be more like this guy? No that is a tanker alt =.=
Haha...not a chance. I have not put a single Skill Point in any vehicle skill since closed Beta. I like my boots on the ground. Logi for Life.
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RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:RydogV wrote:I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. ''Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months''Yes they are pretty fast for a HEAVY vehicle. Of course you have killed more, there are at least 20 times more tanks than before 1.7.''You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together''there by the imbalance. Why does the tanker get to play solo and i have to squad up with OTHER AVers? What if im playing SOLO? what if my squad mates dont have good AV? WHAT IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 1 TANK AT A TIME, say 5? ''At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book''I would agree if i got some WP for it. But after the tank is gone getting killed by Infantry since i was using AV weaponry to TRY and counter the tank,is not acceptable,specially since i didnt get any WP for pushing it back NOR the kill,NOR assist if anything.... ''Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around.''All games are with 3+ tanks running around.''Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time''BullS and you know it, cant hold their objectives? There are lots of maps that have 3 objectives out in the open! as infantry it will be easy to hold the 2 inside but going outside is suicide. a Map as ASH LAND , tanks can have powerful presence in 3 out of 5 objectives and in the case of Line Harvest they have COVER and easy access to all 4 objectives.a lot of nonesense being said, i can only imagine SPKR4 will like your post.EDIT:''see guys, here's a reasonable reply. Why can't you be more like this guy?'' LOL i knew it.
Wow you really have strong feelings. Curious why you would waste your time playing a shooter with vehicles. You really think infantry should consistently be able to solo a tank? You think that is balance?
Anyway, I was just sharing my experiences since the Update went live. Yours have obviously been different and somewhat more negative than mine. Sorry to hear that friend. Chin up. Happy Hunting. |
RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:RydogV wrote: What do you get? You get the win. A win pays out more than a loss, every time. There is profit in a win.
Not when your base payment is less than 1/8 of your suit cost. And with that logic, people should keep using PRO suits even after they lose their 5th one, because there is always a profit in a win
My comment had nothing to do with Kill/Death Ratio. The guy that questioned me was asking what does he get for chasing a tank away? I assume if he chased it away he lived.
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RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:13:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:RydogV wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:RydogV wrote:I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. What do AVers get for "chasing" a tank away? Nothing. No kill means no WP. No WP means less profit. Less profit means you can't AFFORD to run the only AV that actually has an effect on vehicles(proto). Not everyone has a corporate sugardaddy. What do you get? You get the win. A win pays out more than a loss, every time. There is profit in a win. Really? So when the devs broke down the payout system and show that WP and your ranks in the end of match leaderboard determines how much you get, they were lying? And when i make more forging infantry and getting kills but losing the match than when I do 50-60 THOUSAND damage to tanks but get 0 kills and win. WP is the biggest factor in your payout winning and losing means nothing in this game. If it did, it would be a trackable stat.
So you are bringing in a whole lot of other factors into this statement. Of course overall performance in the game is going to have a major impact on your payout and what not. But all you did was ask whether or not there was value in chasing a tank away. And there is inherent value in that, especially when it contributes to a victory. Because a win does pay more than a loss, when all else is equal. |
RydogV
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:16:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:RydogV wrote:I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades.
You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. That's funny, because I won 2 Amarr FW tanking easily, while the whole time ADV and PRO Swarms were firing at me. I pop a shield hardener, cycle them, 15-20 second down time after a full minute being invincible if I time them well. AV out damaging me because there's a full squad of proto AV? Pop both at once and drive away, come back a minute later when the infantry wipes them out or diverts them. I have a 6.0 weekly K/D since 1.7. This includes deaths on the ground, which are half my deaths still. In a HAV, I probably have a 12.0 K/D, 20.0 in Ambush, easy, considering how often I go 20-25/0. My HAV only costs 270k; less than I make in a good Ambush. I actually make a fair bit of ISK tanking Ambushes and I don't even have that much SP in them! 9 out of 10 deaths are to other HAVs and Railgun installations hitting me before my hardeners go up.
Who the F**K plays Ambush. That isn't even a real game mode. LOL |
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