Well, in Chromosome we had AVers complain tanks were too strong. Then in Uprising they were horrible and tankers complained. Now they are strong and weak. Plus I think they were going for something a little different, the best thing to take out a tank is another tank, next best is a heavy with a forge gun, and last is medium or light suits with AV. Assuming everything is perfectly balanced, that doesn't seem like a terribly bad hierarchy. Tanks being the best to take out tanks makes sense, tanks are designed to do a lot of damage and take a lot of damage, the perfect combo to take out a tank. On the other hand Heavies do almost as much damage as tanks but they don't have the ability to take a lot from tank weaponry (or even some infantry weapons but that's a different problem) so they are the next best thing. Then medium and light suits using swarms do the least damage but are still effective. This would mean tanks can fight tanks in the open but heavies can still kill tanks in roughly the same time as another tank, they just have to use their better mobility to get a positional advantage because they are much more vulnerable to return fire. Right now heavies seem to be in need of more diverse roles, and their descriptions always mention they are the only suit to be able to fight tanks on their own.

As far as a tank being the best counter to a tank there is at least one similar scenario faced by infantry. If you're playing in an all infantry match and you get shot by a sniper and want to kill him you have a few options. You could always run directly at him until you get in range, but they would probably lead to him shooting you until you die or just running before you get close. Or, you could go the long way and use cover or sneak up and ambush the sniper. However, both of those are time consuming and usually contain higher levels of death than just simply switching to a sniper fit of your own and counter-sniping.

Right now tanks are the best thing to kill a tank, but heavies and forge guns HURT, especially with hardeners off. Swarms on the other hand are much more situational, it seems instead of giving medium/light suits the ability to be dedicated AV they left that to the heavies. Now mediums and lights with swarms are more about fighting vehicles on a particular objective than being map-wide. Heavies get an additional role (I think that brings it up to two now?) with the ability to go full AV, and mediums/lights can defend themselves.

Off to bed, let the flaming begin.

Failed to comprehend my post I see. The whole point of the post was that Heavy suits (you know those suits that are supposed to be able to go toe-to-toe with vehicles?) can take on a tank single-handedly. Also, by your logic lets take sniper rifles out of the game.

I'm telling infantry to HTFU.

Lol someone who has no idea how to use a heavy or a forge gun, made everything you said invalid, thanks for the laugh.

Head over to the Rookie Training Grounds, find a really good forge gunner, ask for some tips, and come back after you have been in a proto tank that was on the receiving end of a fully proto maxed out assault forge. Those things hurt like hell and if the only thing you can counter with is that the tank can leave too fast then that would mean only one part of tanks is broken, not the whole thing.

If you're a FG that a tank can see you're a noob. Get better.

I bet their fix takes as long as it did when the AV was the OP topic and tanks needed a buff. Don't worry it's only 6 builds or so.

So your butthurt and salty?

I'll put you on the "special" list, right next to Spkr4TheDead and Tankahiro.

Also, there was no fix needed with 1.6. If you actually stopped tickling your willy and turned your hardners on for once, 1 guy with PRO AV wasn't a problem.