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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:29:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker?
I don't know, maybe it's because not everyone is a tanker.
And maybe it's because I shouldn't have to be a tanker to deal with a tanker.
And maybe I don't want to always have to pull out my Missile Gunnlogi everytime some psycho pulls out a Blaster Maddy.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:46:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: You were killed by a MLT missile from a dropship, and continued to use AV even though you called yourself a tanker. Your opinion is invalid.
I was spider tanking that round, so the tank's fit had it's hardners and efficient reps swamped for heavy shield and armor transporters. Any respectable pilot could have sneezed on that tank and it would be history.
And you continued to use HAVs even though you called yourself AV. You opinion is no more valid then mine.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:54:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* They're remote explosives, and they also detonate if a friendly tank rolls over them. Therefore, it's a bug, and should be fixed. It's not a bug.
The AV specialist simply placed Remote Explosives next to Proximity Explosives.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:00:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Of course I have a brain, you need one to be a tanker.'' Not a lot in 1.7, there by the tank spam
''Why don't you try tanking for a week?'' I think you havn't been around a lot huh? My AV weapon of Choice is now a MLT sica , with 2 Shield hardeners, 1 Armor repairer,1 armor hardener and STD Missiles. ITs Cheaper than my best AV fitting by 80k and its at least 200% more effective beating my best AV fit with a rate of 3 to 1 tanks destroyed.
Im not saying im particularity good at it, but i do have a nack to wait far away watching my enemy fight and use their hardeners and then move in for the kill using my double shield hardener to outlast their tank EHP. Has worked on both MAddys and Gunnos alike.
Confirmed ^^^
He went nuts in a Sica a few days ago and took out 3 tanks before I lost all control and pulled out my Swarms. By the time I fired my 2nd volley, I realized that it was him.
I would have let that 4th tank die if I knew it was KING.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:02:00 -
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RydogV wrote: What do you get? You get the win. A win pays out more than a loss, every time. There is profit in a win.
Not when your base payment is less than 1/8 of your suit cost.
And with that logic, people should keep using PRO suits even after they lose their 5th one, because there is always a profit in a win
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Lol you think being infantry is expensive?
It's cheaper than being AV
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:42:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:ask yourselves this, if I have a pistol and we are locked in the same room, and you don't have one, then do you really stand a chance? its the same situation with a tank. people think they can turn into the hulk and throw it 500 meters. no, just no Yes, but if I had a 44 Magnum (something designed to kill you), you would wet your pants silly now wouldn't you?
Also, why not make it to where only a HEAVY can take out a HEAVY then?
People shouldn't be forced to use a TANK to take out a TANK, as that would defeat the purpose of even having AV.
Then again, I guess that wouldn't be a problem for someone who just wants to use tanks as an easy win button and go 60/0 without trying.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:49:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote: I hope so. Infantry only combat is really boring TBH. Epic fights with tanks, AV, infantry, Dropships is why I started to get interested in Dust 514.
It's a lot more fun than my corp mates begging me to field my tank (I mean win button) every match.
Also, imagine all of those vehicles, but none of them are friendly. It would suck wouldn't it?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:17:00 -
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Hey why not give AV the whole Tanker's "Logic" ideal.
Make it to where the best counter to AV is AV. I shouldn't be taken out by a tank but only someone who is wielding a Forge Gun, Swarm Launcher, or Plasma Cannon.
Also, make it to where MLT AV can solo PRO HAVs, because AV needs to be new player friendly and allow for anyone to pick it up and use it, while also enjoying themselves at the same time.
Because of which, we should also buff STD/ADV AV so that they have the same stats as PRO AV, but simply have a longer reload speed.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:33:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spectral Clone wrote: I hope so. Infantry only combat is really boring TBH. Epic fights with tanks, AV, infantry, Dropships is why I started to get interested in Dust 514.
It's a lot more fun than my corp mates begging me to field my tank (I mean win button) every match. Also, imagine all of those vehicles, but none of them are friendly. It would suck wouldn't it? See, even your corp mates think it's an i-win button. I ran into some average tanker 2 days ago who's tanking for his corp. If he's the best they can get at the moment, they better not go into PC, and shouldn't bother with tanks to begin with. I took out him and the guy next to him. Why? Because tanking isn't easy. If you're the best tanker your corp can get, then I feel sorry for them. You still use AV to try to destroy tanks. You have a bad mindset. Roll tanks 24/7 this week. Tanking is about as difficult as the Assault Rifle is to use. Actually, It's even easier to use than the AR.
And best tanker? Far from. My CEO and The True Inferno would (and actually have) made me feel downright bad about myself in a Tank vs. Tank fight. But that's okay because I blew their tanks up beyond recognition when he destroyed mine.
Think it's an "I-Win" button? IT IS AN I WIN BUTTON. Heck when we get redlined (fecking blueberries) the only thing I have to do to ensure that we still win the match is pull out my State Gunnlogi with State Missiles and BAM! All of a sudden were redlining them so badly that they couldn't even jump out the MCC and live.
If there aren't any enemy tanks, then what is there stoping me from becoming a win button? AV? LOL.
And again. Why should I, as a single unit be able to hop into a vehicle and destroy everything; while AV has to use multiple people to destroy me?
1>3? That's a problem.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:38:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: "Fair" to you and infantry means no vehicles whatsoever.
Nothing is fair in war.
F*** that's unfair.
Why would I want vehicles removed from the game? Heck, the only person I've ever heard of who wants vehicles removed from the game is DJINN Leukoplast. And even that is a stretch.
Although, fair to pilots is making it to where SLs can only destroy LAVs. (Great way to remove them from the game without actually removing them from the skill sheet BTW.)
Fair to pilots is also being able to go 60/0 with no teamwork whatsoever while also forcing infantry to use teamwork to defeat them. All while tankers require no teamwork whatsoever.
Why? Because Balance.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:40:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: Lol you think being infantry is expensive?
It's cheaper than being AV How many times do I have to say your opinion is invalidated due to you using swarms instead of a tank to destroy other vehicles? How many times do I have to say your opinion is invalidated due to you using HAVs instead of AV to destroy other vehicles?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:26:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: So one time makes me a bad tanker, Adam And Steve?
No it doesn't.
However, I could also say the same to you everytime you bring up that time were I got killed by an Assault Dropship.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:59:00 -
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Commander Tzu wrote: I bet their fix takes as long as it did when the AV was the OP topic and tanks needed a buff. Don't worry it's only 6 builds or so.
So your butthurt and salty?
I'll put you on the "special" list, right next to Spkr4TheDead and Tankahiro.
Also, there was no fix needed with 1.6. If you actually stopped tickling your willy and turned your hardners on for once, 1 guy with PRO AV wasn't a problem.
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