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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
961
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:48:00 -
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What do you guys think?
This is just an idea so please don't go all verbal Rambo on me.
This could help deal with the extremely effective logi slayers. It would also provide a way for logis to still do much loved form of combat instead of forcing sidearms only on them. Light would fit in medium slots.
Heavy: FG, HMG.
Medium: MD, PLC, maybe SL?
Light: Lasers, Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, others...
Sidearm: All current
Undecided: All forms of Assault Rifles.
DS weapon access-
Heavy frames: Heavy-Sidearm
Assault frames: Medium-sidearm
Commando frames: Medium-sidearm
Logistics frames: Light-sidearm
Scout and other future light frames: Medium-sidearm
No suit would have access to both medium and light slots. As a compromise for possibly removing AR forms from the logi I think giving them sidearm slots would be logical.
Please share you ideas.
I also strongly support the required equipment slots idea. however one or the other, not both, is what I support.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2124
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:50:00 -
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I think the Laser should also be a Medium weapon.
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
962
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:00:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I think the Laser should also be a Medium weapon.
Maybe, but they wouldn't be able to switch to an AR build so they would be stuck at long range or next to their co-combatants. So long as the laser remains a light. When I chose light and medium weapons I took into account there actual difficulty to carry.
So that brings up the issue if the combat rifle should remain a light as well. Seeing as how it looks like the lightest to carry out of all the ARs.
I think logis should only be able to carry literally light weapons because logis should or are supposed to be carrying a lot of gear.
I put scouts as being able to carry medium-sidearm because of the lack of gear they carry already. (I honestly think scouts should have 2 equipment slots at advanced, but that's another subject)
BTW I am proto Amarr Logi and fully view logis as OP.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2124
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:02:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I think the Laser should also be a Medium weapon. Maybe, but they would n't be able to switch to an AR build so they would be stuck at long range or next to their co-combatants. So long as the laser remains a light. When I chose light and medium weapons I took into account there actual difficulty to carry. So that brings up the issue if the combat rifle should remain a light as well. Seeing as how it looks like the lightest to carry out of all the ARs. I think logis should only be able to carry literally light weapons because logis should or are supposed to be carrying a lot of gear. I put scouts as being able to carry medium-sidearm because of the lack of gear they carry already. (I honestly think scouts should have 2 equipment slots at advanced, but that's another subject) BTW I am proto Amarr Logi and fully view logis as OP.
I completely agree with all of this, and btw I'm a Proto Amarr Logi and I think Logis are OP too :D
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
299
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:24:00 -
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You made a mistake IMO, you listed commando as medium-sidearm .. Exactly the same as assault, why bother specialize into them for no benefit, in fact it would actually be an outright nerf.
If anything they should be medium-medium or at the very least medium-light. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
718
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:35:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Xender17 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I think the Laser should also be a Medium weapon. Maybe, but they would n't be able to switch to an AR build so they would be stuck at long range or next to their co-combatants. So long as the laser remains a light. When I chose light and medium weapons I took into account there actual difficulty to carry. So that brings up the issue if the combat rifle should remain a light as well. Seeing as how it looks like the lightest to carry out of all the ARs. I think logis should only be able to carry literally light weapons because logis should or are supposed to be carrying a lot of gear. I put scouts as being able to carry medium-sidearm because of the lack of gear they carry already. (I honestly think scouts should have 2 equipment slots at advanced, but that's another subject) BTW I am proto Amarr Logi and fully view logis as OP. I completely agree with all of this, and btw I'm a Proto Amarr Logi and I think Logis are OP too :D
My assault ak.0 is a better slayer than my logistics gk.0.
EDIT: I agree with this. I'd want some carbine type weapons for logis, though.
I'd put AR type weapons in med slots.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1266
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:42:00 -
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I think it's an interesting idea that needs a whole lot of polish. (I object to a lot of how Medium and Light weapons fall into groups, and how Commando is set Medium-Sidearm, negating the only interesting thing about the suit.)
But overall, +1 for a cool idea.
ED: Specific gripes: Scout without a sniper rifle? AR-type weapons should be medium, Commando should have 2 medium slots.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8760
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:43:00 -
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People still complain about logis?
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2383
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:59:00 -
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Nah that's too much work for too little reward, all you do is nerf logis in that case.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
1238
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:04:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:What do you guys think?
This is just an idea so please don't go all verbal Rambo on me.
This could help deal with the extremely effective logi slayers. It would also provide a way for logis to still do much loved form of combat instead of forcing sidearms only on them. Light would fit in medium slots.
Heavy: FG, HMG.
Medium: MD, PLC, maybe SL?
Light: Lasers, Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, others...
Sidearm: All current
Undecided: All forms of Assault Rifles.
DS weapon access-
Heavy frames: Heavy-Sidearm
Assault frames: Medium-sidearm
Commando frames: Medium-sidearm
Logistics frames: Light-sidearm
Scout and other future light frames: Medium-sidearm
No suit would have access to both medium and light slots. As a compromise for possibly removing AR forms from the logi I think giving them sidearm slots would be logical.
Please share you ideas.
I also strongly support the required equipment slots idea. however one or the other, not both, is what I support.
**** no. My Plasma Cannon had best be equipable on my Logi suit forever, or so help me...
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
428
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:08:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:What do you guys think?
This is just an idea so please don't go all verbal Rambo on me.
This could help deal with the extremely effective logi slayers. It would also provide a way for logis to still do much loved form of combat instead of forcing sidearms only on them. Light would fit in medium slots.
Heavy: FG, HMG.
Medium: MD, PLC, maybe SL?
Light: Lasers, Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, others...
Sidearm: All current
Undecided: All forms of Assault Rifles.
DS weapon access-
Heavy frames: Heavy-Sidearm
Assault frames: Medium-sidearm
Commando frames: Medium-sidearm
Logistics frames: Light-sidearm
Scout and other future light frames: Medium-sidearm
No suit would have access to both medium and light slots. As a compromise for possibly removing AR forms from the logi I think giving them sidearm slots would be logical.
Please share you ideas.
I also strongly support the required equipment slots idea. however one or the other, not both, is what I support.
If they do this, Commando should be Medium/Light or Light/Light to make it different than a heavy assault. I say Medium/Light to make it, well, good for it's role.
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
963
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:46:00 -
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The - mark I put stand for through. It includes everything between. not another weapon slot.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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