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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2013.12.16 01:44:00 -
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The Gallente Neutron Rifle is a single-shot, high-powered battle rifle developed by Duvolle Laboratories. It fires a precise, devastating bolt of plasma capable of tearing through heavy shields and armor. Despite its precision, it has relatively poor range and is designed mostly for short to mid-range confrontations. The Neutron Rifle also features an optional charge function, allowing you to increase the damage and range of a shot by charging it.
Reloading takes 1.25 seconds, and charging it fully takes 2.50 seconds. The damage and range increase is directly proportional to the amount the weapon is charged. At 50% charge, the weapon's damage and range increase by 50%. At 100%, the weapon's damage and range increase by 100%. Without charging, the rifle's optimal/effective range is 35m/50m, but at full charge the rifle's optimal/effective range is 70m/100m. Charging increases alpha damage, but reduces DPS (except at long ranges, where charging increases DPS). Fully charging the rifle before firing results in a 33% loss in optimal DPS.
Advantages over the Assault Rifles
Increased alpha damage.
Increased range when charged.
Disadvantages over the Assault Rifles
Decreased DPS
Poor continuous fire capability.
Reduced range when not charged.
Breach Neutron Rifle
A variant designed for close-quarters combat. It has 25% reduced range, but more accurate hipfire. 1% of charge increases damage by 1.5%, but range by only 0.5% (+150% and +50% at full charge, respectively, giving it 25% more damage and 43.75% reduced range compared to the Standard Neutron Rifle at full charge).
Tactical Neutron Rifle
A variant designed for long-range marksmanship. 25% reduced base damage, but comes with a scope. 1% of charge increases damage and range by 1.5% (effectively gives 25% more range and 6.25% reduced damage compared to the Standard Neutron Rifle at full charge).
Burst Neutron Rifle
A variant designed for short bursts of fire. Reloading takes 2.5 seconds and damage is reduced by 50%, but clip size is increased from 1 to 3. In addition to the increased damage and range, at +33% charge two shots (if in the clip) will fire at once, and at 100% charge all shots are fired at once. Unlike with the other variants, you'll have to deal with the kick (while zoomed it's mostly barrel climb, in hipfire it increases spread), though, which is fairly hefty.
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The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:04:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I don't understand how it has poor range if it can get to 70-100m.
70 meter optimal range is pretty poor for a precision weapon.
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Breach is long range not close range.
That's an unsubstantiated claim.
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:And I am completely confounded by this line:
"Fully charging the rifle before firing results in a 33% loss in optimal DPS."
What is the point of charging if it is better to just spam the trigger?
1. You can't spam the trigger. The weapon can only load one round at once.
2. Higher alpha damage and range, clearly.
Maybe I should have made it clearer that you have to reload every shot.
Edit: There, is that better? You would have been fine if you read the whole thing in detail.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:35:00 -
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Kazu Fujiwara wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Breach is long range not close range. That's an unsubstantiated claim. ... what. The Breach Assault Rifle is the Gallente's version of the Rail Rifle. Which is medium to long range. So yes, Breach is for longer ranges.
Then why does the Assault Rail Rifle have equal range to (Breach) Rail Rifles of the same tier?
And why do Breach Rifles in general have low hipfire spread?
Also, what do you think "Breach" means?
And goddamnit, why are we talking about Assault Rifles and not my suggestion?!
Also, take a look at these ranges.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:02:00 -
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Kazu Fujiwara wrote:because it's a rail rifle?
That's not a very good argument for the ranges being the same.
Furthermore, did you click that link? Breach GAR has the same range as Standard GAR.
Kazu Fujiwara wrote:Low RoF = Low CoF bloom.
Also a bad argument. Why does it have lower Rate of Fire, and why not increase recoil per shot to compensate?
Kazu Fujiwara wrote:To me? Breach means "Make a big-ass hole in something." Like a breaching charge.
You're an idiot. In combat terminology, breaching is the act of breaking through enemy defenses, like in a sting operation. Why would you need to have long range if you're breaching an enemy complex? Trick question, you don't. What you do need is the ability to neutralize enemies at close ranges.
Kazu Fujiwara wrote:As for your weapon - a single shot rifle designed for close range? wut. Why? Why is that a good idea?
Why is it a bad idea? Also, not close range, close- to-medium range. Big difference there.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:30:00 -
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Kazu Fujiwara wrote:*snip*
Such trouble over the name of a variant...
However, you admitted that CCP uses non-perfect terminology, therefore I don't need to follow CCP's standards.
iWin?
Kazu Fujiwara wrote:Because single shot close range weapons are silly unless it's a shotgun. I look at this, and I see no reason to take it over a standard AR, or even a tactical AR. If it were the Gallente version of a sniper rifle, used for medium to long range? Ok, sure. I could see it. Effectively a bolt action sniper rifle, but trading range for a charge and more damage. If that were the case, then yes I'd take it. But right now it's basically a shotgun. But without the spread. Or the damage. Or the ability to follow up.
That's funny, I don't remember listing the damage, so how could you know what the damage is, exactly?
Also, I think we're getting close to the end of this argument. You see no reason to take it over the standard Assault Rifle? How interesting, because I see no reason to take any other weapons in the game over the Racial ARs. So basically, one could say it's on the same level as the rest of the weapons in the game. Isn't that a good thing? 
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Ulysses Knapse
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:49:00 -
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Kazu Fujiwara wrote:the point is that this weapons is attempting to fill a hole in the Gallente arsenal that doesn't exist. Turn it into a longer range weapon, and it might not seem like a useless addition.
It already has better range than the standard and advanced Rail Rifles when fully charged, and only slightly lower range than the prototype Rail Rifle. That's a fair bit of range for a Gallente weapon, also keep in mind that I came up with those ranges for the standard tier in mind, and the Tactical Neutron Rifle has better range than even prototype Rail Rifles when fully charged. Plus, the the only Gallente weapons with decent alpha are the Shotgun (only good at close range) and the Plasma Cannon (a completely different kind of weapon).
deepfried salad gilliam wrote:Close range single shot
Either 1hko and is op
Or 2hko and is up
I don't see this working out
Reload time is only 1.5 seconds. Also, you can use it to weaken your enemy before switching to your sidearm.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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