DUST Search - [Feedback] Rifles and SMG need a 30% nerf.

KA24DERT wrote:

We keep seeing these "TTK" issue threads, but I think it's time to stop dancing around the issue.

The time to kill of most weapons is fine, with the exception of the rifles and the SMG.

The high damage output of these weapons is negating the following:

- CQC tactics: Strafing, jumping, and moving in general is a moot point, if you get shot first, you are probably dead.
- Fittings: Most fits are now glass cannons, with most of the remainder being stacked HP. Variety in viable fittings is dwindling.
- Going for cover: If you are in the open, you are dead, there is no running once you start taking damage.
- Scouts: Speed tanking is no longer viable due to some of the above reasons. It's very hard to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee anymore.
- Non Rifle Weapons: The non hitscan weapons are now relegated to utter novelties. The Rail Rifle has eaten the Laser's lunch, and most engagements are over before the second Mass Driver round can travel to a target.

Or to further distill it down, the rifles and SMG are interfering with:

- Core FPS mechanics
- Unique Dust Mechanics

Which means it is affecting almost the entire game.

Reducing the damage by 30% is a good start to addressing what these incredibly high DPS weapons have done to Dust.


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Meeko Fent State Patriots Templis Dragonaors 1718	Posted - 2013.12.15 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: We keep seeing these "TTK" issue threads, but I think it's time to stop dancing around the issue. The time to kill of most weapons is fine, with the exception of the rifles and the SMG. The high damage output of these weapons is negating the following: - CQC tactics: Strafing, jumping, and moving in general is a moot point, if you get shot first, you are probably dead. - Fittings: Most fits are now glass cannons, with most of the remainder being stacked HP. Variety in viable fittings is dwindling. - Going for cover: If you are in the open, you are dead, there is no running once you start taking damage. - Scouts: Speed tanking is no longer viable due to some of the above reasons. It's very hard to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee anymore. - Non Rifle Weapons: The non hitscan weapons are now relegated to utter novelties. The Rail Rifle has eaten the Laser's lunch, and most engagements are over before the second Mass Driver round can travel to a target. Or to further distill it down, the rifles and SMG are interfering with: - Core FPS mechanics - Unique Dust Mechanics Which means it is affecting almost the entire game. Reducing the damage by 30% is a good start to addressing what these incredibly high DPS weapons have done to Dust. While for the most part, I agree something must be done, but also disagree with your high percentage of nerfing, I would like to bring up a good point that people keep bringing up that just bewilders me. Comparing ANYTHING to a Laser. Lets admit this. the laser is a useless pile of ** that should not be taken into account. It be like saying "The ScP is Better then the NK, NERF IT." Its a novelty weapon, to be quite honest. Take it as like comparing a Archery Bow to a AK. Does it take more skill to use a Archery Bow? Yes. Is it more rewarding to use? Probably. Is it a effective weapon considering the capabilities of other weapon systems? no. The Laser is a weapon that is only useful inside a 20 meter window that is 60 Meters Out. Yet we are comparing it to a weapon that is really designed to be competitive. The Laser is a kind of Skill-Kill Gun. Much like the NK, or ScP (To an extent), and using RE's as grenades. Its fun to do, but going into a match where there's a **-ton of tryhards trying to win generally skews the balance to a much more implying that it is UP, and the opposing weapon is OP. DUST is a half decent game. Be happy its free.