DUST Search - Tired of poor implementation? Lack of balance?

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Zero Notion wrote:

Multiple tanks are fine. It's the current map lay outs that are a large part of the issue. They want to encourage vehicles to fight vehicles and to be quick, powerful disruptive forces to infantry. Unfortunately the maps force players to cluster together due to the lay out of the objectives and the optimal ranges of our weapons in context to the size of the maps. There are few places where a tank can be held off outside of the objective because there is no reason to be beyond the objectives.

Regardless. The protest idea is just that; if players are unhappy, they have to actively make a point of it with more than just words. Either by refusing to play or refusing to pay. When AURUM first hit the Eve market, massive protests were set off in Eve which forced changes to be made.

The implementation of Faction Warfare in its current form has been such a horrible failure. It's things like this that cause players to quit and lose faith. Sure, they can fix it in a week, but when these mistakes happen again and again - something is wrong.

2 tanks qualify as multiple tanks.

7 people using tanks out of 16 is NOT fine.

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Zero Notion Wraith Company 447	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:04:00 - [1] - Quote The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 230	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:06:00 - [2] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore. i.really. hope you get "charlie browned here bro............. Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
Zero Notion Wraith Company 449	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:08:00 - [3] - Quote I was never really great at catching the football.
Mdog 24158 Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 58	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:09:00 - [4] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore. No Flying derpships and combat rifle destroyer fear me
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3166	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:10:00 - [5] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore. LOL Fight the DEVS? 6 Maddys and stomp. Let them see what they think of the game after they get stomped by ROFL Tank514 power.... Maybe after this they will see my tank limitation idea is actually reasonable. (max 2 per team) TANKS/AV/FW/RIFLES in 1.7? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=128947&find=unread
Zero Notion Wraith Company 449	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:20:00 - [6] - Quote Multiple tanks are fine. It's the current map lay outs that are a large part of the issue. They want to encourage vehicles to fight vehicles and to be quick, powerful disruptive forces to infantry. Unfortunately the maps force players to cluster together due to the lay out of the objectives and the optimal ranges of our weapons in context to the size of the maps. There are few places where a tank can be held off outside of the objective because there is no reason to be beyond the objectives. Regardless. The protest idea is just that; if players are unhappy, they have to actively make a point of it with more than just words. Either by refusing to play or refusing to pay. When AURUM first hit the Eve market, massive protests were set off in Eve which forced changes to be made. The implementation of Faction Warfare in its current form has been such a horrible failure. It's things like this that cause players to quit and lose faith. Sure, they can fix it in a week, but when these mistakes happen again and again - something is wrong.
ladwar Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1922	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:32:00 - [7] - Quote lol... i thinking of coming out of retirement and people are protesting the build that is giant step in the right direction, not perfect but much better then most builds before hand even good old chromosome builds. i think i want to be there to throw stones at these protesters. Level 2 Forum Warrior, retired vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3173	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:34:00 - [8] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: Multiple tanks are fine. It's the current map lay outs that are a large part of the issue. They want to encourage vehicles to fight vehicles and to be quick, powerful disruptive forces to infantry. Unfortunately the maps force players to cluster together due to the lay out of the objectives and the optimal ranges of our weapons in context to the size of the maps. There are few places where a tank can be held off outside of the objective because there is no reason to be beyond the objectives. Regardless. The protest idea is just that; if players are unhappy, they have to actively make a point of it with more than just words. Either by refusing to play or refusing to pay. When AURUM first hit the Eve market, massive protests were set off in Eve which forced changes to be made. The implementation of Faction Warfare in its current form has been such a horrible failure. It's things like this that cause players to quit and lose faith. Sure, they can fix it in a week, but when these mistakes happen again and again - something is wrong. 2 tanks qualify as multiple tanks. 7 people using tanks out of 16 is NOT fine. TANKS/AV/FW/RIFLES in 1.7? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=128947&find=unread
dogmanpig black market bank 80	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:36:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zero Notion wrote: Multiple tanks are fine. It's the current map lay outs that are a large part of the issue. They want to encourage vehicles to fight vehicles and to be quick, powerful disruptive forces to infantry. Unfortunately the maps force players to cluster together due to the lay out of the objectives and the optimal ranges of our weapons in context to the size of the maps. There are few places where a tank can be held off outside of the objective because there is no reason to be beyond the objectives. Regardless. The protest idea is just that; if players are unhappy, they have to actively make a point of it with more than just words. Either by refusing to play or refusing to pay. When AURUM first hit the Eve market, massive protests were set off in Eve which forced changes to be made. The implementation of Faction Warfare in its current form has been such a horrible failure. It's things like this that cause players to quit and lose faith. Sure, they can fix it in a week, but when these mistakes happen again and again - something is wrong. 2 tanks qualify as multiple tanks. 7 people using tanks out of 16 is NOT fine. are we going to have to start putting limits on AV fits, logis fits, assault fits, next? because that would be balanced then. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Vin Mora Sanguis Defense Syndicate 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:38:00 - [10] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore. No, I'm going to hunt down CCP Nullarbor. He seems so out of touch with everything that he does with the Eve - Dust link and it is very annoying. Sanguis Defense Syndicate: Recruitment now open for players of all skill levels

Zero Notion Wraith Company 450	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:38:00 - [11] - Quote ladwar wrote: lol... i thinking of coming out of retirement and people are protesting the build that is giant step in the right direction, not perfect but much better then most builds before hand even good old chromosome builds. i think i want to be there to throw stones at these protesters. You're talking to some deluded individuals, then.
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 104	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:46:00 - [12] - Quote You must be new here, so I'll explain to you how patches in a MMORPG-style game work: Patches that add new features usually break a few things while improving the game as a whole. The follow-up patches fix all of the bugs the dev's couldn't catch because the players put in more man-hours in an afternoon than CCP could hope to devote to testing in a year. HTFU.
Cosgar ParagonX 8708	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:48:00 - [13] - Quote ladwar wrote: lol... i thinking of coming out of retirement and people are protesting the build that is giant step in the right direction, not perfect but much better then most builds before hand even good old chromosome builds. i think i want to be there to throw stones at these protesters. Welcome back ladwar! o7 I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3175	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:51:00 - [14] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: are we going to have to start putting limits on AV fits, logis fits, assault fits, next? because that would be balanced then. Your sarcasm is not funny and its unwelcome. Vehicles only have 4 counters while having Big HP and resistance modules.(and somehow a LOT of speed) Comparing Dropsuits to tanks is just ridiculous. If the enemy equips 16 of their men with AV its no problem. If the enemy equips 16 dudes with assault fits,ITS NOT A PROBLEM.If the enemy equips 16 men with logi suits (which in 1.6 was the ase almost every game) ITS NOT A PROBLEM. It can be dealt with; with gun-game. 6 tanks spider tanking while enemy infantry is on you,can not. Cannot be dealt with with SKILL. When you are forced to take out a tank because is the best way to kill a tank sounds balanced,except that Tanks are also exceedingly good at taking out infantry, making them unbalanced. Again 6+ tanks would be ok in a 32 vs 32 men scenario, not 16 vs 16. TANKS/AV/FW/RIFLES in 1.7? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=128947&find=unread
Zero Notion Wraith Company 450	Posted - 2013.12.15 03:57:00 - [15] - Quote Saxbrin Shain wrote: You must be new here, so I'll explain to you how patches in a MMORPG-style game work: Patches that add new features usually break a few things while improving the game as a whole. The follow-up patches fix all of the bugs the dev's couldn't catch because the players put in more man-hours in an afternoon than CCP could hope to devote to testing in a year. HTFU. No, not new but thanks for your input. P.S; This is why most MMORPGs have test servers!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui KOBAYASHI MARU PROJECT 205	Posted - 2013.12.15 04:07:00 - [16] - Quote Saxbrin Shain wrote: You must be new here, so I'll explain to you how patches in a MMORPG-style game work: Patches that add new features usually break a few things while improving the game as a whole. The follow-up patches fix all of the bugs the dev's couldn't catch because the players put in more man-hours in an afternoon than CCP could hope to devote to testing in a year. HTFU. If that was the case then there wouldn't be a TTK issue , there would be more of a variety in EVERYTHING with REAL customizations in every category of and in this game and not the same drool boring actions and fit selections . Just received a few " new " weapons but there sure are a lot more items that you can buy with your money though . I can go on and on but why ..???... you people seem pleased with the current state of affairs . No one will boycott extra skill points and special offers ... forget about playing with the DEV's , it's the offers that will get the turnout to be high . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 33	Posted - 2013.12.15 04:47:00 - [17] - Quote Damn i think I'll be the only one on the Devs side.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4096	Posted - 2013.12.15 05:21:00 - [18] - Quote The people fighting the devs need to play the part of the tank spammers and proto stompers. The people fighting with the devs need to play the part of the worthless blueberry in starter fits. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Zero Notion Wraith Company 451	Posted - 2013.12.15 05:25:00 - [19] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The people fighting the devs need to play the part of the tank spammers and proto stompers. The people fighting with the devs need to play the part of the worthless blueberry in starter fits. They have to remember to not squad up on the dev side, too. And not use mics. Maybe they could turn their playstation off in mid match to simulate being kicked. Just to make it more realistic, you know.
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 77	Posted - 2013.12.15 05:47:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zero Notion wrote: The Devs are planning the events to 'fight the devs'. Don't show up. Protest. Express your displeasure with the game by refusing to participate in the event. The continued poor implementation of mechanics (FW, tanks, shield nerfs, scouts, rifle weaponry, Planetary Conquest) shouldn't be taken lightly by the community. Most of us here want the game to succeed. We want this to be a viable game, otherwise we wouldn't be here and we wouldn't enjoy it. During the days of these scheduled events, don't participate and don't buy any AURUM items. Words, apparently, are not enough for the development and executive teams. Of course mistakes are made and I understand. I sympathize with the work that they are currently attempting but something has to give. Something has to change and it can't be the players just constantly adapting to their mistakes. It's not fun anymore. LOL Fight the DEVS? 6 Maddys and stomp. Let them see what they think of the game after they get stomped by ROFL Tank514 power.... Maybe after this they will see my tank limitation idea is actually reasonable. (max 2 per team) What happens when a newberry calls in a sica and they vet tanker with 20m sp into vehicles is forced to run infantry?

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3197	Posted - 2013.12.15 05:50:00 - [21] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: What happens when a newberry calls in a sica and they vet tanker with 20m sp into vehicles is forced to run infantry? In the post in my sig i explained how it could work. TY. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 34	Posted - 2013.12.15 06:38:00 - [22] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The people fighting the devs need to play the part of the tank spammers and proto stompers. The people fighting with the devs need to play the part of the worthless blueberry in starter fits. F that im going all in to help the devs proto gear maddys and all.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 711	Posted - 2013.12.15 07:49:00 - [23] - Quote Not much of a protest. Just don't buy AUR and write honest critical posts on the forums. Still +1 for your political will : ) Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 139	Posted - 2013.12.15 07:57:00 - [24] - Quote NO, go and fight!!, kill ALL the devs with scout and flaylocks!!! Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur (Today is a good day for someone else to die).


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