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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:15:00 -
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Militia tanks are what makes tanking accessible now, more people are giving HAV a try. Tryhards expecting to be easy mode a blowing up left and right while people that find tanking fun and intense will stay, breeding new tankers and other vehicle pilots over time. Without them, tanks will be niche at best with OG tankers in their ever shrinking circle-jerk.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cosgar wrote:Militia tanks are what makes tanking accessible now, more people are giving HAV a try. Tryhards expecting to be easy mode a blowing up left and right while people that find tanking fun and intense will stay, breeding new tankers and other vehicle pilots over time. Without them, tanks will be niche at best with OG tankers in their ever shrinking circle-jerk. Hey, then why can't AV be accessible to new players? Make it to where MLT AV can 1-2HK vehicles because AV needs to be fun and intense so that new AVers will breed and other FG & SL users over time. Without them, AV will be niche at best with nobody in their non-existent circle-jerk. 
Because AV needs a better role. WP for damaging vehicles would be a good starting place.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cosgar wrote:Atiim wrote:Cosgar wrote:Militia tanks are what makes tanking accessible now, more people are giving HAV a try. Tryhards expecting to be easy mode a blowing up left and right while people that find tanking fun and intense will stay, breeding new tankers and other vehicle pilots over time. Without them, tanks will be niche at best with OG tankers in their ever shrinking circle-jerk. Hey, then why can't AV be accessible to new players? Make it to where MLT AV can 1-2HK vehicles because AV needs to be fun and intense so that new AVers will breed and other FG & SL users over time. Without them, AV will be niche at best with nobody in their non-existent circle-jerk. Because AV needs a better role. WP for damaging vehicles would be a good starting place. Because I definitely want to spend 180k ISK per suit to get +25 WP when I could spend 75k can get +150 WP.
You're thinking of AV vs HAV. What about AV vs LAV or AV vs MAV (when LAVs become viable and MAVs come out)
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:58:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:Cosgar wrote:Atiim wrote:Cosgar wrote:Militia tanks are what makes tanking accessible now, more people are giving HAV a try. Tryhards expecting to be easy mode a blowing up left and right while people that find tanking fun and intense will stay, breeding new tankers and other vehicle pilots over time. Without them, tanks will be niche at best with OG tankers in their ever shrinking circle-jerk. Hey, then why can't AV be accessible to new players? Make it to where MLT AV can 1-2HK vehicles because AV needs to be fun and intense so that new AVers will breed and other FG & SL users over time. Without them, AV will be niche at best with nobody in their non-existent circle-jerk. Because AV needs a better role. WP for damaging vehicles would be a good starting place. we had this awhile back. people used to farm around 500 wp per tank. 
Since they found a good middle ground by capping insane WP/m gains, this would make sense.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cosgar wrote:
You're thinking of AV vs HAV. What about AV vs LAV or AV vs MAV (when LAVs become viable and MAVs come out)
When these vehicles are introduced then I will quit if AV is in it's current condition. Why should I even bother using AV? Why should I bother playing a game where I literally have a 5mil SP dent simply because of LTGBers QQing about not going 60/0 every match? And no you won't has my ISK, that would go to KING CHECKMATE or my corp.
Still have to keep in mind there's multiple things at play. CCP is in full-on data collection mode for the new tanks. Swarm range got nerfed because they can't get draw distance right, we only have standard hulls and AV had to be scaled down to match that, and all of this is only the first step in vehicle/AV balance.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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