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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:20:00 -
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There should be more nanohives variants available in return for LP.
The ISK market has the gauged hives where you can hold onto 4 hives and drop 3 down at the same time and it also has triage hives (because your dear LogiBro wants to rep himself too)
LP version only has the normal variant which only is 3 hives and only 2 could be deployed at the same time with the only bonus that it contains more clusters.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
529
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:02:00 -
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I'm at level 5 and I don't really get why you broughtskill-level into your argument?
I might be wrong but aren't the factional items supposed to be exclusive and better than their ISK counterparts? I don't directly find any stats online to check this, but I know that the injector and rep tool are.
Sure, one of the proto LP nanohives has more clusters, but it has 1 hive less than the gauged ishukone hives. I can also put 3 ishukone hives at the same time instead of 2 with the LP version. This makes the extra clusters of the LP hives a non-factor as I have more clusters and mobility with the ISK version.
As a logi, I view my equipments as Assaults see their weapon. Assault users get an exclusive AR for their LP, so why can't I get exclusive hives for my LP? I don't see why I have to pay the full ISK for my stuff while assaults can get it much cheaper with LP. It's already hard enough for logis as they have to gain LP from all 4 factions just for their equipment alone to have their suit running without a huge loss in FW.
Next thing I know is that everyone is going to complain that they don't get help from their logis and they are too much focussed on killing stuff...
The amount of WP gained for higher equipment levels is also botched and although more WP is nice, helping my squad is what matters the most. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
535
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:07:00 -
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I'm not interested in the lower skill requirement, I want that exclusive extra stuff. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
535
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:45:00 -
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So you are also not sure if LP stuff has an extra bonus because you keep ignoring that part or do think it's fine that nanohives have no exclusive bonus compared to other items? |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
535
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Posted - 2013.12.14 23:16:00 -
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I don't care if it's a non-factor TO YOU, I do care if it's different compared to other items, because you know...that would be unfair. Now go figure out which opinion is based on a rational basis and which one on an irrational one.
I don't see why future additions (where he hell do you get that info?) would suddenly change your perspective and why can't we have it now instead of later especially if it "doesn't matter overall" to you. Might as well just agree with it now instead of selling this nonsense. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
537
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Posted - 2013.12.15 10:21:00 -
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If you wouldn't be so ignorant you would have noticed that the ISK version of the Duvolle AR uses 90CPU and 13PG while the LP variant uses only 47CPU and 6PG.
This makes the LP AR an exclusive weapon with a big fitting advantage.
Now let's take a look at the nanohives:
One of the LP hives is exactly the same as the ISK variant which is not a problem because people who haven't got the skill to level 5 can use it too and the LP tactical AR is the same as the ISK variant too. No problem there.
The second LP hive only has more clusters, but it has no advantage compared to the ISK variant of the gauged hives which is not in line with the other items.
We actually have only one variant of protohives in the LP market (one only has more cluster, see above), we don't have triage hives at protolevel while the AR gets an 'assault' and 'tactical' variant.
Conclusion: LP nanohives are limited in advantage (if you can call it an advantage) compared to other items unless you are ignorant. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
542
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Posted - 2013.12.15 20:20:00 -
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1. We are not talking about SP (or time) investment.
2. The LP versions are worse than the ISK versions at protolevel so there goes your 'be a better logi by investing your SP elsewhere'. PS: There is actually a decrease in CPU/PG usage if you skill into the nanocircuity skill.
3. We have AUR gear to test out better gear than we skilled into.
4. LP gear is supposed to be exclusive.
5. You're full of bullshit. Previously you say you are going to enjoy early proto-access because you skilled your passive skills up first. So this SP-crap you are trying to sell to us is actually in YOUR FAVOUR while you are trying to make it look like I'm biased because it's not in my favor. To end it of you say you have already acces to protogear. What is is going to be holmes?
6. We have finally established that your reasoning is biased on an illogical way, so why should we listen to you? |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
543
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:24:00 -
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1. Funny as your logical explanation didn't include SP.
2. Cool, didn't notice the rate difference before, I'll guess I have to reevaluate now (but not for the reasons you mentioned earlier).
3. I'm not factoring it in, just pointing out that your ISK VS LP VS time is a stupid factor when there are AUR items, I'm not exactly sure why CCP decided to give early proto-acces with LP bc they always seem to like your money for useless gear in other cases.
4. Exclusive as in better than items that can be purchased by ISK, not exclusive of faction, did you see me complaining about it being restricted to a faction?
5. This point was about selling bullshit.
6. So you agree that your other arguments were bullshit?
The question now is: are those extra 8 refills worth the cost of mobility (putting one more hive in an extra location).
I guess the answer is NO when your hives get fluxed and/or the battle is moving to a different place
and YES when you are doing a point-defense and/or have access to a supply depot.
There are still no triage hives available in the LP store while you do get two variants of each weapon, so are LP nanohives lacking? Are assault-style players more favored by the LP market? |
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