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Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 12:11:00 -
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I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
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Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 12:15:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Can I have your isk please? Learn to read. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 13:34:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:One militia tank with militia railgun and militia DMG mod can take down any tank,and you dont need any SP to drive them
Exacly this is the problem. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 13:39:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out.
How mature and helpful answer. Thank you very much for your insight. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 14:06:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
See you in 2 days then. 98% of these "I'm leaving" are just for personal attention, at least of the one's I've bothered to read. And of the ones whose names I never saw again. Lo and behold, a guy appears with a different name but the same Playstation Network Tag because he Deleted only the character name he announced leaving on! The best thing is that people who actually leave no longer have any say on the future development of the game, but those who stay around have a longer chance of actually chaning things for the better. So go ahead and run. Run. Run. You won't change anything. You will be Unable to change anything. One who is not present has no influence over the future.
This is not just for personal attention. This is mostly for CCP attention. They are breaking this game completely. Do you really belevie you have any influence on ccp ? Not in dust for sure.
Leonid Tybalt wrote:Get into a tank yourself then and take those tank spammers down?
When I got my sp previously invested i tanking back I immediately spent it on the new tank skills and whipped up a decent Madrugar fit.
And let's just say that cheap ass Sicas and Somas dont stand a chance against a Madrugar with 80 GJ Ion Cannon, dual cplx armor hardeners (I can have a permanent 40 % damage reduction if I want) and an armor repper.
If you only spend SP on infantry-related skills then you'll have to accept that your playstyle will become less versatile. I mean, what did you do before the 1.7 patch? Jumped into combat and just hoped that no one could afford tanks on the opposing team? If you can't deal with tanks now then it stands to reason that you couldn't deal with tanks before either, and that's not something that you can blame the patch for just because you yourself made poor strategical choices when investing your skillpoints.
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On a side-note, I can agree with some of the criticism. I think the tanks have become a little too fast (I didn't want more top speed for my tank, I wanted more manouevrability since real world tanks with dual tracks do turn a lot faster than the crappy tanks in dust). Also I think the Sicas and Somas are a little too good compared to the madrugars and gunnlogis right now. Against non-AV infantry the Soma/Sica should be formidable, but if a Madrugar shows up it should be no contest.
BUT this thread to me is only a testament to someone being butthurt over not having spent their skillpoints wisely.
So skilling into infantry is a bad strategical choice ?. This game is now pretty much tanks vs tanks and infantry is just a meat. Im butthurt over mlt tanks being so cheap and so powerfull. They are everywhere now. Please explain me, what choices i was supposed to make to stop tank spam in every match out there. Im supposed to skill into tanks now and play your tanks vs tanks game. So what is the point of infantry skill tree ?. No skills can beat a battlefield full of tanks as long as they can spam them over and over again for just 65k. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 14:33:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
See you in 2 days then. 98% of these "I'm leaving" are just for personal attention, at least of the one's I've bothered to read. And of the ones whose names I never saw again. Lo and behold, a guy appears with a different name but the same Playstation Network Tag because he Deleted only the character name he announced leaving on! The best thing is that people who actually leave no longer have any say on the future development of the game, but those who stay around have a longer chance of actually chaning things for the better. So go ahead and run. Run. Run. You won't change anything. You will be Unable to change anything. One who is not present has no influence over the future. This is not just for personal attention. This is mostly for CCP attention. They are breaking this game completely. Do you really belevie you have any influence on ccp ? Not in dust for sure. CCP has a habit of listening to people... just never instantly, and because they do it that way they're always behind the curve... when something new happens to the game they literally quit archiving responses for a week or two because it's all going to be complaints about the changes. If a series of complaints last longer than a month and are logically presented with accurate information instead of "just because" quotes, then they may take that into account later down the line. Translation: You're complaining about the contents of a patch directly after the patch was released. CCP sees complaints that burst up so early as nothing more than impulse complaints. In other words, you're complaining inside of a feedback "deadzone" If you were to make this complaint in about a month with more information, it might hold more weight. But right next to a patch... it holds none at all. Also! Why should they cater to you if you claim you're leaving? Wouldn't it be less of a waste to cater to the people who stay? I mean, if you change something and that person is no longer around to see the change, was the change worth it? From a business standpoint, No.
Sadly the only buisness standpoint they have is greediness. All nerfs and boost are supposed to keep you in game and buy boosters to catch up. Now let me play months to skill into tanks because all choices i made were wrong and are useless now. As i said ill be back as soon as battles wont be full of cheap deadly tanks.
CCP have a habit of listening their playerbase. But only in Eve Online. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:46:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
See you in 2 days then. 98% of these "I'm leaving" are just for personal attention, at least of the one's I've bothered to read. And of the ones whose names I never saw again. Lo and behold, a guy appears with a different name but the same Playstation Network Tag because he Deleted only the character name he announced leaving on! The best thing is that people who actually leave no longer have any say on the future development of the game, but those who stay around have a longer chance of actually chaning things for the better. So go ahead and run. Run. Run. You won't change anything. You will be Unable to change anything. One who is not present has no influence over the future. This is not just for personal attention. This is mostly for CCP attention. They are breaking this game completely. Do you really belevie you have any influence on ccp ? Not in dust for sure. Leonid Tybalt wrote:Get into a tank yourself then and take those tank spammers down?
When I got my sp previously invested i tanking back I immediately spent it on the new tank skills and whipped up a decent Madrugar fit.
And let's just say that cheap ass Sicas and Somas dont stand a chance against a Madrugar with 80 GJ Ion Cannon, dual cplx armor hardeners (I can have a permanent 40 % damage reduction if I want) and an armor repper.
If you only spend SP on infantry-related skills then you'll have to accept that your playstyle will become less versatile. I mean, what did you do before the 1.7 patch? Jumped into combat and just hoped that no one could afford tanks on the opposing team? If you can't deal with tanks now then it stands to reason that you couldn't deal with tanks before either, and that's not something that you can blame the patch for just because you yourself made poor strategical choices when investing your skillpoints.
EDIT:
On a side-note, I can agree with some of the criticism. I think the tanks have become a little too fast (I didn't want more top speed for my tank, I wanted more manouevrability since real world tanks with dual tracks do turn a lot faster than the crappy tanks in dust). Also I think the Sicas and Somas are a little too good compared to the madrugars and gunnlogis right now. Against non-AV infantry the Soma/Sica should be formidable, but if a Madrugar shows up it should be no contest.
BUT this thread to me is only a testament to someone being butthurt over not having spent their skillpoints wisely. So skilling into infantry is a bad strategical choice ?. This game is now pretty much tanks vs tanks and infantry is just a meat. Im butthurt over mlt tanks being so cheap and so powerfull. They are everywhere now. Please explain me, what choices i was supposed to make to stop tank spam in every match out there. Im supposed to skill into tanks now and play your tanks vs tanks game. So what is the point of infantry skill tree ?. No skills can beat a battlefield full of tanks as long as they can spam them over and over again for just 65k. Ridiculous. You can't capture null cannons in a tank, you need infantry for that. Also theres plenty of areas that tanks cant reach on pretty much every map. You call this a "tanks vs tanks game", well you know what? It never was a pure "infantry vs infantry" game to begin with. (if that's what you're after then go play CoD) And to answer your question: yes skilling purely in infantry is a bad strategical choice if you intend to be competitive. Unless you're in a corp with dedicated tank drivers and/or AV-infantry that you can rely on, then you have to take matters into your own hands. Going around "assuming" that "someone else" is going to solve all your tactical problems for you so you don't have to do it yourself is the very definition of bad strategy. So either you find corpmates that you can depend on, or you just have to suck it up and make yourself more independent. This is a game of mercenary-warfare, so start thinking like one.
So fighting against 10 65k mlt tanks is just ok. Noted. Infantry just for hacking. Noted. Game was never pure infantry vs infantry, but it is almost pure tanks vs tanks now. Just go do ambush or domination and see it for yourself. And explain me why something that cost half my dropsuit is supposed to dominate the battlefield. |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:11:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:The infantry spam was unbearable to vehicles.
This is how it feels to have the short end of the stick... Except you'll get your end relatively soon compared to how long vehicles waited.
Can you read my first post once again and rethink what you just said ? |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:07:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:
So fighting against 10 65k mlt tanks is just ok. Noted. Infantry just for hacking. Noted. Game was never pure infantry vs infantry, but it is almost pure tanks vs tanks now. Just go do ambush or domination and see it for yourself. And explain me why something that cost half my dropsuit is supposed to dominate the battlefield.
Explain to me why a vehicle costing ten times more than your dropsuit is supposed to be blown up by ONE proto swarm launcher like it was before 1.7 and I'll answer your question. Also domination and ambush are not this games primary modes of play. Skirmishes is where most of the focus is (thats why PC battles are skirmishes). It's clear that you're not playing to win. You're just here to b*tch about the fact that you spent your skillpoints unwisely. Theres nothing worse than a whiney PBI... Show me the moment where i said that tanks should be nerfed back to pre1.7. You following your lunatic vision of my person without even reading my post. From the very beginning you were mean to me and full of arrogance. Lets end this now before we start to seriously argue. My idea was too boost tanks even more than now, a lot more and make them expensive. Do you really think that battles full of deadly mlt tanks are just fine ? |
Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:35:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:I will be back when tank spamming problem will be solved. Im no longer interested playing against full team of unkillable mlt tanks. If something is twice cheaper than my setup and almost unkillable its time to quit.
I think tanks are still a little bit underpowered, i think they should boost tanks even more and MAKE THEM really EXPENSIVE.
I have no problem fighting against one or two godlike tanks where you have to work hard and long as a team to take them down. But 5-10 65k mlt godlike tanks on the field is laughable. Infantry is expensive and useless now. Welcome to Tanks 514.
boo hoo hoo
This is what you do while looking at yourself in the mirror ? Is it this answer mature enough for you ? Am i at your IQ level now ? |
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Michael Hyperthraz
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:50:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Michael Hyperthraz wrote:This is what you do while looking at yourself in the mirror ? Is it this answer mature enough for you ? Am i at your IQ level now ? Lol dude, grow up.
Said by a person who reply to posts using words "can i have your stuff" and defending person who reply "boo hoo hoo". Now that is maturity.
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