DUST Search - Full auto Combat Rifles

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

calvin b wrote:

There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are

22.0 HP

1200 RPM

It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles.

The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you.

Haha, no way is ScR outclassed by RR; ScR's DPS is still ungodly and it has comparable range.

Don't see the point in the ACR, tbh. Burst has like 30% higher DPS, and it's not that hard to get shots on target...

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KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 504	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:38:00 - [1] - Quote Hey which modded controller do you guys use? "Because beer, that's why."
mollerz Minja Scouts 1324	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:40:00 - [2] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Hey which modded controller do you guys use? The assault combat rifle? #shittycoding
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 650	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:40:00 - [3] - Quote There are two versions. Assault is the fully auto one.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2302	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:42:00 - [4] - Quote mollerz wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Hey which modded controller do you guys use? The assault combat rifle? The normal variant can still fire very fast if you've got a quick finger. Coming from a scrambler pistol it's easy to empty a clip on a CR very quickly. That or an assault killed him. :D Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 504	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:46:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: mollerz wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Hey which modded controller do you guys use? The assault combat rifle? The normal variant can still fire very fast if you've got a quick finger. Coming from a scrambler pistol it's easy to empty a clip on a CR very quickly. That or an assault killed him. :D I can't remember what variant so you are probably correct. It was full auto. I was unaware the assault variant was full auto and have only played with the burst variant. MY BAD "Because beer, that's why."
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 209	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:48:00 - [6] - Quote Silly you, you got too much beer. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 324	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:49:00 - [7] - Quote With a quick trigger finger, you're good with the CR (though I DID hear rumors of modded controlers coming back)
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 634	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:51:00 - [8] - Quote someone is in for a nice surprise when he tries out the assault CR https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 504	Posted - 2013.12.14 06:54:00 - [9] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: someone is in for a nice surprise when he tries out the assault CR man I hope not. I dumped my SP into Prof 4 RRs with some nice reload, ammo and fitting points as well. "Because beer, that's why."
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1203	Posted - 2013.12.14 07:23:00 - [10] - Quote There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. The evil hidden in the name

Lorhak Gannarsein 692	Posted - 2013.12.14 07:48:00 - [11] - Quote calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. Haha, no way is ScR outclassed by RR; ScR's DPS is still ungodly and it has comparable range. Don't see the point in the ACR, tbh. Burst has like 30% higher DPS, and it's not that hard to get shots on target... >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Rowdy Railgunner Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 263	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:00:00 - [12] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: mollerz wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Hey which modded controller do you guys use? The assault combat rifle? The normal variant can still fire very fast if you've got a turbo mod. Coming from a scrambler pistol it's easy to empty a clip on a CR very quickly. That or an assault killed him. :D FYP.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 833	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:44:00 - [13] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Silly you, you got too much beer. SACRILEGE!!! It's dangerous to travel the forums alone, take this! (.:'Honeyed'Lamb**':.) FIX TTK & MINSUITS (GîÉ_GîÉ )
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3125	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:50:00 - [14] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. Haha, no way is ScR outclassed by RR; ScR's DPS is still ungodly and it has comparable range. Don't see the point in the ACR, tbh. Burst has like 30% higher DPS, and it's not that hard to get shots on target... It's just the effort of adding more without actually adding more I think. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Schalac 17 Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing 301	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:51:00 - [15] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: mollerz wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Hey which modded controller do you guys use? The assault combat rifle? The normal variant can still fire very fast if you've got a modded controller. Coming from a scrambler pistol it's easy to empty a clip on a CR very quickly. That or an assault killed him. :D FYP.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1110	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:53:00 - [16] - Quote calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. LOL IF ITS OUTCLASSED how come no RR users been Able to take me out??? G£«NASCAR 514 !!!!!!!!!!G£« Check out my Youtube
Schalac 17 Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing 301	Posted - 2013.12.14 08:57:00 - [17] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: LOL IF ITS OUTCLASSED how come no RR users been Able to take me out??? You haven't played since Tuesday?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6166	Posted - 2013.12.14 09:16:00 - [18] - Quote I find that it's actually quite easy to max out the CR's RoF because of its burst nature even just with a normal controller. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1204	Posted - 2013.12.14 10:27:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. Haha, no way is ScR outclassed by RR; ScR's DPS is still ungodly and it has comparable range. Don't see the point in the ACR, tbh. Burst has like 30% higher DPS, and it's not that hard to get shots on target... Hate to say it, but I have killed a lot of ScR user as of late. I use my range to my advantage and its not very hard to anticipate so the charge is miniscule. The evil hidden in the name
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 199	Posted - 2013.12.14 10:42:00 - [20] - Quote calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. Use it with cover. Pop out, take down your first target. Slip back into cover, reload. Rinse repeat. I have found very few people who can deal with a jack in the box ACR. I find scrambler rifles to be the toughest targets, mostly due to their burst. I do agree that ammo is a serious constraint. I actually find myself running out of ammo as much as I do when i run a mass driver. I suppose it makes sense, the gun feels like we are just throwing clips of ammo at people I'm really finding that CCP did an excellent job balancing these weapons. Each has their sweat spot, but no weapon is screaming 'OP' like we have had in the past. I have found myself cycling through various weapons depending on what the situation calls for. Its rather nice EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum

Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2103	Posted - 2013.12.14 10:44:00 - [21] - Quote I would never touch a matari scum rifle, but for the holy scrambler rifle. I can go ham on the trigger if I have some sexy female dubstep. My finger goes into a seizure mode. Not everyone uses a modded controller. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1111	Posted - 2013.12.14 17:57:00 - [22] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: LOL IF ITS OUTCLASSED how come no RR users been Able to take me out??? You haven't played since Tuesday? I play everyday only skirmish tho US Servers mostly around 10:00 am to 2pm if i start later around 3 probably finish at 6pm G£«NASCAR 514 !!!!!!!!!!G£« Check out my Youtube
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 45	Posted - 2013.12.14 18:05:00 - [23] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: There are two versions. Assault is the fully auto one. WRONG.....they r both full auto w fancy troller. Show me the money!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2374	Posted - 2013.12.14 18:07:00 - [24] - Quote I can't imagine needing one for it. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 669	Posted - 2013.12.14 18:24:00 - [25] - Quote It's not like the TAR or ScR, since it's a burst fire rifle it's not that difficult to make it nearly full auto even without an exceptionally fast trigger finger. I know I'm going to get some flak from my Amarr brethren but I can't help but love the CR. The short bursts just feel right, like a proper tactical assault weapon. Keeping my fingers crossed for some kind of burst scrambler with similar mechanics, maybe slower ROF but more range. I would be in heaven. (Less excited about the RR, and see it more of a situational weapon for me. The spool up time takes some getting used to and if you switch weapons frequently like I do it messes up your aim more than you would think.) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 636	Posted - 2013.12.14 19:47:00 - [26] - Quote calvin b wrote: There is no modded controllers. If you check you will see the stats for the automatic are 22.0 HP 1200 RPM It is an awesome weapon, not great at distance and lacks a large enough magazine IMO. I hate the fact I am taking on three people, drop the first one, empty rest of magazine switch to SMG down goes the second, then I am dead. This weapon is designed to be in your face and walking through you onto the next target. I started to use it on my heavy for it is better than the HMG IMO. Also for you to use the automatic version you have to be at level 4 for the 1st model and level 1 proficiency for the second. To me I love both the CR and the RR and I will never say these weapons need a nerf for they are balanced just right for there roles. The problem is the Gek is outclassed now by this weapon and the ScR is outclassed by the RR. The point is each weapon has a niche, you just have to find the one that fits you. getting 80m kills with the std CR SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 50	Posted - 2013.12.14 19:49:00 - [27] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: It's not like the TAR or ScR, since it's a burst fire rifle it's not that difficult to make it nearly full auto even without an exceptionally fast trigger finger. I know I'm going to get some flak from my Amarr brethren but I can't help but love the CR. The short bursts just feel right, like a proper tactical assault weapon. Keeping my fingers crossed for some kind of burst scrambler with similar mechanics, maybe slower ROF but more range. I would be in heaven. (Less excited about the RR, and see it more of a situational weapon for me. The spool up time takes some getting used to and if you switch weapons frequently like I do it messes up your aim more than you would think.) Op, combat rifles (both variants) can hit you very fast if they get the drop on you (or even if they didn't but you happen to be engaging another target), no mod controllers required. As for John, I agree with the RR critiques. I like it, but the spool up time can be annoying and make it hard to stay on target when you can't easily fire in long bursts. I don't want it removed, since the rail rifle seems pretty balanced, but I am hoping for a burst variant without the spool up. 3 or 4 shot burst, roughly same damage though roughly tweaked for balance and to make the gun workable as a burst weapon, same magazine (or one with 40 rounds if it is a four shot burst), same rate of fire (or increase it to 600 rpm like the assault RR,) and same low power scope.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 636	Posted - 2013.12.14 19:52:00 - [28] - Quote I dumped 2 million SP into my CR I use the standard and I use it on a g-I scout the wombat rifle is my best friend now SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
OZAROW warravens League of Infamy 1095	Posted - 2013.12.14 23:48:00 - [29] - Quote Still think the assault needs love, either clip size or damage
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 201	Posted - 2013.12.15 01:58:00 - [30] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Still think the assault needs love, either clip size or damage You might be able to argue for clip size, or total ammo capacity. It does not need a damage increase. I'm wrecking people with the adv version, any more damage and it would be op. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum



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