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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
842
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:51:00 -
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Replace the current stats for LP gain with these:
Level 0: 326 LP Level 1: 375 LP Level 2: 431 LP Level 3: 496 LP Level 4: 570 LP Level 5: 656 LP Level 6: 754 LP Level 7: 867 LP Level 8: 997 LP Level 9: 1147 LP Level 10: 1319 LP
Please consider the following: a tough match against a decent team may give an upwards of 500,000 ISK, a Caldari HAV costs around 200,000 ISK while in LP store it's 500 LP + 30,000 ISK. Reaching a base payout of 1319 LP seems reasonable considering the time it took to reach LV 10 standing and the difficulty of the battles (heavy use of PRO gear to ensure win).
The only downside I would see from this is if a player joins a winning match that's about to end and then gains high LP for doing almost nothing. A countermeasure for this would be to halve the LP gain if he/she joined while the enemy MCC is below 20-25% total HP.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2317
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:54:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Replace the current stats for LP gain with these:
Level 0: 326 LP Level 1: 375 LP Level 2: 431 LP Level 3: 496 LP Level 4: 570 LP Level 5: 656 LP Level 6: 754 LP Level 7: 867 LP Level 8: 997 LP Level 9: 1147 LP Level 10: 1319 LP
Please consider the following: a tough match against a decent team may give an upwards of 500,000 ISK, a Caldari HAV costs around 200,000 ISK while in LP store it's 500 LP + 30,000 ISK. Reaching a base payout of 1319 LP seems reasonable considering the time it took to reach LV 10 standing and the difficulty of the battles (heavy use of PRO gear to ensure win).
The only downside I would see from this is if a player joins a winning match that's about to end and then gains high LP for doing almost nothing. A countermeasure for this would be to halve the LP gain if he/she joined while the enemy MCC is below 20-25% total HP.
That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
842
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:56:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters...
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Acturus Galaxy
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
296
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:00:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Replace the current stats for LP gain with these:
Level 0: 326 LP Level 1: 375 LP Level 2: 431 LP Level 3: 496 LP Level 4: 570 LP Level 5: 656 LP Level 6: 754 LP Level 7: 867 LP Level 8: 997 LP Level 9: 1147 LP Level 10: 1319 LP
Please consider the following: a tough match against a decent team may give an upwards of 500,000 ISK, a Caldari HAV costs around 200,000 ISK while in LP store it's 500 LP + 30,000 ISK. Reaching a base payout of 1319 LP seems reasonable considering the time it took to reach LV 10 standing and the difficulty of the battles (heavy use of PRO gear to ensure win).
The only downside I would see from this is if a player joins a winning match that's about to end and then gains high LP for doing almost nothing. A countermeasure for this would be to halve the LP gain if he/she joined while the enemy MCC is below 20-25% total HP. That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally.
I agree, and increase the LP prices on the specialised weapons, such that you would need 5-6 victories on low standing to afford one and be able to buy 1-2 per match at level 10. Then they might be worth close to a mill isk on the marked and worth the grind to level 10 faction standing.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4031
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:02:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... Well besides the fact that boosters should increase how fast you gain standing, not how much currency you earn (but obviously CCP wants to continue to sell boosters after you hit top standing so that's not happening), you seem to forget that these are just measly payouts that anyone will get. These are payouts that only a few will get after 200 wins, total dedication.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
842
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... Well besides the fact that boosters should increase how fast you gain standing, not how much currency you earn (but obviously CCP wants to continue to sell boosters after you hit top standing so that's not happening), you seem to forget that these are just measly payouts that anyone will get. These are payouts that only a few will get after 200 wins, total dedication. Except that once you get there, that will be the pay you receive at default regardless of how you performed in a win. If your team is really good you could just AFK for a while and still get that big payout.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1458
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:20:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters...
boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone?
thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win.....
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
827
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:25:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone? thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win..... judging by your likes, you're not new to this game... what the hell is wrong with you?
you do realize boosters have been always been around, and this game has yet to become pay to win. why would LP boosters be any different.
why even post?
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1951
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:25:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone? thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win..... CCP promises lots of things.
Come on Biscuit your a Scout. You should know better by now.
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Never go full COD.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1458
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:27:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone? thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win..... judging by your likes, you're not new to this game... what the hell is wrong with you? you do realize boosters have been always been around, and this game has yet to become pay to win. why would LP boosters be any different? why even post?
you assume I don't think sp boosters are pay to win.... they are
lp boosters are even worse because of the kinds of weapons/ isk you can get with LP.
so tone your attitude down boy!
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4050
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:29:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone? thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win..... judging by your likes, you're not new to this game... what the hell is wrong with you? you do realize boosters have been always been around, and this game has yet to become pay to win. why would LP boosters be any different? why even post? Because SP boosters only boost your SP, not your ISK currency. Faction boosters boost LP currency.
Boosting currency values can be the difference between sustainable and nonsustainable. These boosters are very different than the ones we have already had.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally.
See below
Seymor Krelborn wrote:lp boosters are even worse because of the kinds of weapons/ isk you can get with LP. This is kinda why I didn't want to go overboard in changes.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2337
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:44:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That's getting closer, but I'd rather see the levels past 5 increase more incrementally. You seem to forget the presence of boosters... boosters, which cost money..... pay to win anyone? thought ccp promised this game wouldn't be pay to win.....
How would you propose that CCP make money?
Should they plant money trees instead?
Or maybe they could sell energy drinks and bottled water. We'll just promise to buy it as long as they continue to develop the game.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
1203
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:48:00 -
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After level 5 they should double and gain small amounts of ISK. All it takes is one lose and so far I have been reset twice
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