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Morathi III
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Well, there is now really no reason for me to actually play FW unless my alliances asks me to or I need a specialist combat rifle.
Jesus. Lose most likely 6 to 7 suits per match to afford 1 through LP? Yeah no thanks. The first numbers were high and looked promising for grind/risk involved but now I'm wondering, whats the point when everything dies so fast?
I realize they wanted to put in an isk sink but this is more like an ISK blackhole with little to no incentive to actually play. Perhaps they secretly hate FPS players. Eve FW is sooo easy to grind LP if you don't mind orbiting around a button for 20 minutes. I truly don't get it, I was bragging on CCP for the LP store and being surprised the prices were low enough to make the grind worth it. I agree with the poster above that said the Level 10 numbers seemed too high but 10s of 1000s down to 651???? I mean really, at what point is this supposed to be rewarding for the dust player? All we're doing is dirty work for EVE capsuleers by keeping their bonuses up. Some might say "oh a market will surely make this better." Sorry but I'm still failing to see how the 2 combat rifles I can score from a victory at max standings are going to make this worth playing and not cost my corp millions of isk just to get to the point where I can score those two combat rifles. A high potential LP payout could lead to loyalty to factions, a willingness to invest ISK into battles, and hard fought battles. This mythical need for an ISK sink needs to be squashed.
FW is very usefull for rich player to get advantage by having less fitting cost weapon, the reality is the rich will fight for the faction only for the weapon low CPU/PG cost, they will not care which faction is , they will care for the weapon they use |
Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:18:00 -
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@Thor, you can only buy them in the loyalty market if im correct |
Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:02:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Well if you run pure ADV fits it is kinda sustainable, if you're good enough to limit your deaths in a proto suit to 0-1 then it's sustainable. With that being said, the new numbers are depressing. Looks like I'll reconsider rushing to lvl 10. You can only die in a pub match 2x in a proto to break even most of the time, 5 or 6 times in a good ADV suit. That's where i'm going with the 2.0 KDR. 10-5 in ADV gear in pubs is going to net you 20-100K in most matches where a guy going 0-0 with 0 WP is going to net 180K. With DEV blog LP payouts at max standings you had the opportunity to actually fight in good gear and earn some ISK (when player market is released). Now it's just another ISK sink that will promote passive game play.
I feel they try to segrate ( protostomper ) will go play FW for the proto gun with less fitting cost to the normal player ( STD-ADV ) for who that just been an isk sink to go in FW and stay in regular pub match, in mid term that give the game more enjoyable for the new- poor or who those dislike protostomping in pub |
Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:08:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Morathi III wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Well if you run pure ADV fits it is kinda sustainable, if you're good enough to limit your deaths in a proto suit to 0-1 then it's sustainable. With that being said, the new numbers are depressing. Looks like I'll reconsider rushing to lvl 10. You can only die in a pub match 2x in a proto to break even most of the time, 5 or 6 times in a good ADV suit. That's where i'm going with the 2.0 KDR. 10-5 in ADV gear in pubs is going to net you 20-100K in most matches where a guy going 0-0 with 0 WP is going to net 180K. With DEV blog LP payouts at max standings you had the opportunity to actually fight in good gear and earn some ISK (when player market is released). Now it's just another ISK sink that will promote passive game play. I feel they try to segrate ( protostomper ) will go play FW for the proto gun with less fitting cost to the normal player ( STD-ADV ) for who that just been an isk sink to go in FW and stay in regular pub match, in mid term that give the game more enjoyable for the new- poor or who those dislike protostomping in pub I think it could certainly become that if the incentives are good enough. Matchmaking through cause and effect instead of some elaborate code.
If the incentive are too good and they open player market, some new player will see a place to make money and just afk in FW to sell these precious weapon to the rich easily instead of going themselves in FW and they can continue protostomp in regular match |
Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:49:00 -
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I understand your point Thor, not sure which one is best honestly, your point is valid for corp like yours where the player not necesserly own 100 millions isk by player and are involved in PC so that can be a isks sink for them of course, its normal you seem concerned about this subject |
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