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Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:00:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:1. GRIND. This is the toughest one for CCP to address. It is probably a basic feature of a game of this kind - Eve is at least as bad, I gather. But basically the game feels like a job. I have to play a certain amount of time per week or I suffer a competitive disadvantage, and to play PC I have to be on at a particular, usually not very convenient time. I have a social life and a real job, and don't have time for another one.
2. LAG. The lag in PC is horrific. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game, the best versus the best, and half the time it's an absolutely unplayable 1 FPS slideshow. There are simple steps that could've been taken to improve things (e.g. remove equipment noise and animations) but CCP don't seem to care. For a long time pubs were much more enjoyable for me, just because the framerate is so much better, but you can only pwn noobs so many (in my case, 27,000) times before you've had your fill. FW is supposed to fill the gap, but it's laggier than pubs so why bother?
3. 1.7. I'm not one of these nostalgia junkies who says every update makes things worse, that things were better in beta, etc. Until 1.7 I thought the game had been progressively getting better. But 1.7 demolished any hope I had for the game. Not only is it a disaster, but it was obvious it would be a disaster and CCP went ahead anyway. They've basically told pure infantry players like me to go **** ourselves. Vehicle users get a respec, we get nothing. Vehicle users get God mode, we get to hide in buildings. To be honest, it's a good thing for me, as it makes it easy to leave, which I should do anyway (see points 1 and 2). But I'm guessing the plan wasn't to alienate the 80%+ of their playerbase who want to shoot at someone who can shoot back. More fundamentally, it shows me that CCP will always pander to the loudest QQers, regardless of the consequences for game balance.
That's why I'm going, flame away.
Lol the first patch ever to benefit pure vehicle users instead of pure infantry and you get people crying, funny thing is even when AV was OP they were still on the forums trying to get it buffed. Cya scrub, can I haz all your ISKies? |
Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:40:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:[quote=Commander Tzu
Lol the first patch ever to benefit pure vehicle users instead of pure infantry and you get people crying, funny thing is even when AV was OP they were still on the forums trying to get it buffed. Cya scrub, can I haz all your ISKies?
Look at this guy.
He LOVES 1.7 and every time I see him it's in a tank just blasting away .
Don't think his shoes have touched the ground since .[/quote]
Almost. I played 4 matches all dropsuit, one with my Raven and rail rifles I got from caldari LP (proto scrambler rifles OHKO me lol), one with a stupid raven fit I made with toxin and militia scramber pistol with two militia sidearm dmg mods. Two were with my dragonfly scout with shotgun, armor plate, repper, and extender all militia. First game I went like 8/9 second I went 17/4. If I wasn't in a tank I would probably be in a scout.
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Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:44:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:1. GRIND. This is the toughest one for CCP to address. It is probably a basic feature of a game of this kind - Eve is at least as bad, I gather. But basically the game feels like a job. I have to play a certain amount of time per week or I suffer a competitive disadvantage, and to play PC I have to be on at a particular, usually not very convenient time. I have a social life and a real job, and don't have time for another one.
2. LAG. The lag in PC is horrific. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game, the best versus the best, and half the time it's an absolutely unplayable 1 FPS slideshow. There are simple steps that could've been taken to improve things (e.g. remove equipment noise and animations) but CCP don't seem to care. For a long time pubs were much more enjoyable for me, just because the framerate is so much better, but you can only pwn noobs so many (in my case, 27,000) times before you've had your fill. FW is supposed to fill the gap, but it's laggier than pubs so why bother?
3. 1.7. I'm not one of these nostalgia junkies who says every update makes things worse, that things were better in beta, etc. Until 1.7 I thought the game had been progressively getting better. But 1.7 demolished any hope I had for the game. Not only is it a disaster, but it was obvious it would be a disaster and CCP went ahead anyway. They've basically told pure infantry players like me to go **** ourselves. Vehicle users get a respec, we get nothing. Vehicle users get God mode, we get to hide in buildings. To be honest, it's a good thing for me, as it makes it easy to leave, which I should do anyway (see points 1 and 2). But I'm guessing the plan wasn't to alienate the 80%+ of their playerbase who want to shoot at someone who can shoot back. More fundamentally, it shows me that CCP will always pander to the loudest QQers, regardless of the consequences for game balance.
That's why I'm going, flame away. Lol the first patch ever to benefit pure vehicle users instead of pure infantry and you get people crying, funny thing is even when AV was OP they were still on the forums trying to get it buffed. Cya scrub, can I haz all your ISKies? That's totally uncalled for.
Perhaps I was a bit too harsh but honestly all these patches and we finally get one designed for vehicles and people freak out. Plus, from what I have seen most people who say they are quitting either are just looking trying to get some attention so people talk them out of it or they are just venting. Maybe he quits for real, I dunno, but to get on the forums to do it usually means it's more about attention. |
Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:13:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:1. GRIND. This is the toughest one for CCP to address. It is probably a basic feature of a game of this kind - Eve is at least as bad, I gather. But basically the game feels like a job. I have to play a certain amount of time per week or I suffer a competitive disadvantage, and to play PC I have to be on at a particular, usually not very convenient time. I have a social life and a real job, and don't have time for another one.
2. LAG. The lag in PC is horrific. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game, the best versus the best, and half the time it's an absolutely unplayable 1 FPS slideshow. There are simple steps that could've been taken to improve things (e.g. remove equipment noise and animations) but CCP don't seem to care. For a long time pubs were much more enjoyable for me, just because the framerate is so much better, but you can only pwn noobs so many (in my case, 27,000) times before you've had your fill. FW is supposed to fill the gap, but it's laggier than pubs so why bother?
3. 1.7. I'm not one of these nostalgia junkies who says every update makes things worse, that things were better in beta, etc. Until 1.7 I thought the game had been progressively getting better. But 1.7 demolished any hope I had for the game. Not only is it a disaster, but it was obvious it would be a disaster and CCP went ahead anyway. They've basically told pure infantry players like me to go **** ourselves. Vehicle users get a respec, we get nothing. Vehicle users get God mode, we get to hide in buildings. To be honest, it's a good thing for me, as it makes it easy to leave, which I should do anyway (see points 1 and 2). But I'm guessing the plan wasn't to alienate the 80%+ of their playerbase who want to shoot at someone who can shoot back. More fundamentally, it shows me that CCP will always pander to the loudest QQers, regardless of the consequences for game balance.
That's why I'm going, flame away. Lol the first patch ever to benefit pure vehicle users instead of pure infantry and you get people crying, funny thing is even when AV was OP they were still on the forums trying to get it buffed. Cya scrub, can I haz all your ISKies? That's totally uncalled for. Perhaps I was a bit too harsh but honestly all these patches and we finally get one designed for vehicles and people freak out. Plus, from what I have seen most people who say they are quitting either are just looking trying to get some attention so people talk them out of it or they are just venting. Maybe he quits for real, I dunno, but to get on the forums to do it usually means it's more about attention. I thought he just wanted to let CCP know about his experience with their game in the hope they, you know, might actually improve their product. But your WebMD psychology diagnosis makes much more sense.
The first two are things people have said for as long as I can click the next button of the forums, the third is already flooding the threads as people freak out about vehicles' first patch designed to make them better instead of worse. With such a huge number of other threads for him to post on it does seem more like a vent or rant. Also, I've heard WebMD is actually pretty good, though I would think my psych classes in college contributed more towards my conclusion. But I don't need a psych class or an online encyclopedia to see the frustration some people have dripping from their posts.
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Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
72
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:17:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:1. GRIND. This is the toughest one for CCP to address. It is probably a basic feature of a game of this kind - Eve is at least as bad, I gather. But basically the game feels like a job. I have to play a certain amount of time per week or I suffer a competitive disadvantage, and to play PC I have to be on at a particular, usually not very convenient time. I have a social life and a real job, and don't have time for another one.
2. LAG. The lag in PC is horrific. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game, the best versus the best, and half the time it's an absolutely unplayable 1 FPS slideshow. There are simple steps that could've been taken to improve things (e.g. remove equipment noise and animations) but CCP don't seem to care. For a long time pubs were much more enjoyable for me, just because the framerate is so much better, but you can only pwn noobs so many (in my case, 27,000) times before you've had your fill. FW is supposed to fill the gap, but it's laggier than pubs so why bother?
3. 1.7. I'm not one of these nostalgia junkies who says every update makes things worse, that things were better in beta, etc. Until 1.7 I thought the game had been progressively getting better. But 1.7 demolished any hope I had for the game. Not only is it a disaster, but it was obvious it would be a disaster and CCP went ahead anyway. They've basically told pure infantry players like me to go **** ourselves. Vehicle users get a respec, we get nothing. Vehicle users get God mode, we get to hide in buildings. To be honest, it's a good thing for me, as it makes it easy to leave, which I should do anyway (see points 1 and 2). But I'm guessing the plan wasn't to alienate the 80%+ of their playerbase who want to shoot at someone who can shoot back. More fundamentally, it shows me that CCP will always pander to the loudest QQers, regardless of the consequences for game balance.
That's why I'm going, flame away. Lol the first patch ever to benefit pure vehicle users instead of pure infantry and you get people crying, funny thing is even when AV was OP they were still on the forums trying to get it buffed. Cya scrub, can I haz all your ISKies? That's totally uncalled for. Perhaps I was a bit too harsh but honestly all these patches and we finally get one designed for vehicles and people freak out. Plus, from what I have seen most people who say they are quitting either are just looking trying to get some attention so people talk them out of it or they are just venting. Maybe he quits for real, I dunno, but to get on the forums to do it usually means it's more about attention. Pauses from Kingdoms of Amalor. Hi Tzu! I am not upset about the vehicles. CCP has no idea how to do weapon balance. I.e. there are no defined weapon roles. I.e. how hard is it to get a ten meter range CQC automatic shotgun for heavies and scouts?? Or a heavy weapon with a ten meter range thats an automatic forge gun?? Instead we get rifles Uber Alles for every range the rifles are best...lol. Goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor.
Tech! Good to see ya man.
Auto shotty for heavies, YES! I'm thinkin' USAS-12 scaled up to accept 40mm shells that fire flechettes. Good old fashioned brutal minmatar weapon.
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