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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 10:10:00 -
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It absolutely negates any form of tactic in this game. Can't flank - Enemy will just cut you down Can't rush in unexpectibly - Enemy expects it and cuts you down Can't dance around boxes - Enemy knows exactly where you are
It breaks too many things.
If you put on profile damps then you are just gimped and can't fight against those scanner users anyway.
Active scanner MUST be nerfed heavily.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4689
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Posted - 2013.12.13 10:47:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I love executing blissfully unaware people who think they're safe because they have scanners. XD As much as I love that, if they have eyes, they will kill you since they aren't sacrificing their suit.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4693
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Posted - 2013.12.13 10:59:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:If we are getting cloaks like which was recently confirmed scanners will be needed in some form. Did I say remove scanners? I said nerf them.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4693
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Posted - 2013.12.13 11:03:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Use dampeners. You won't be gimped.
Except, of course, if the only "tactic" you are able to use is running straight at people.
I'm running a medium suit that has 418 total HP, 2x damage mods, 1x complex dampener for the last couple of weeks. And I think it is more effective than a fully dual-tanked suit.
Active scanners "negating tactics" is absolutely bullshit. If you want to flank, make a fitting that is suitable to flanking. huhuh. And what do you think happens when that person turns around and see's you? Do you think he will just go down peacfully? No, he will shoot at you, and kill you, because his suit doesn't have profile damps or anything like that, so he has more killing power.
"My anti scanner suit has 100 less HP and regenerates 5hp/s slower."
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4694
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Posted - 2013.12.13 11:16:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:Use dampeners. You won't be gimped.
Except, of course, if the only "tactic" you are able to use is running straight at people.
I'm running a medium suit that has 418 total HP, 2x damage mods, 1x complex dampener for the last couple of weeks. And I think it is more effective than a fully dual-tanked suit.
Active scanners "negating tactics" is absolutely bullshit. If you want to flank, make a fitting that is suitable to flanking. huhuh. And what do you think happens when that person turns around and see's you? Do you think he will just go down peacfully? No, he will shoot at you, and kill you, because his suit doesn't have profile damps or anything like that, so he has more killing power. "My anti scanner suit has 100 less HP and regenerates 5hp/s slower." I just had a match with that suit and went 40/7 (no orbitals) against fully-tanked proto tryhards. If you use damage mods and dampeners, they won't have more "killing power" than you. You just have to play smarter and flank them all the time. I'm not talking about some theoretical bullshit here. I am actually running fittings with dampeners ALL THE TIME. But you HAVE to adapt your playstyle if you want to use them. OR you stick with your dual-tanking and stop complaining. I actually never dual tank. I avoid dual tanking as much as possible.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4696
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Posted - 2013.12.13 11:45:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:DUST is basically a huge game of rock paper scissors on the battlefield. Everything has a countermeasure but if you dont have that countermeasure atyour disposal, you're screwed. Damage has the countermeasure of armor/shield, without those, you're dead. Vehicles have the CM of AV weapons, without which you're dead, etc etc. If you're in a confrontation and are not equipped to deal to produce countermeasures to the enemy, that doesn't mean what they're using is OP. More dimensions of gameplay are coming to D514, the next of these likely being in the guise of electronic warfare. Ewar is going to necessitate people speccing into countermeasures which will require suit resources. CCP Remnant talked about scrambling enemy minimaps and shutting off their voice comms. Are people going to moan about having to invest resources and suit resources into this too? Play more DUST, earn more SP and spec into more countermeasures to the game's mechanics and use supply depos and a range of suits built for different purposes and use them tactically at the right time to meet your current objective because you can't really have it all. That being said, the cool down could be a little longer. The thing is, that even if you have that countermeasure, you are gimped against the suit that is using the scanner.
If the scanner reduced HP or something then yeah, but it doesn't.
Rock Paper Scissors is broken if you bring paper to kill rock, and rock doesn't die because it's stronger.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4700
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Posted - 2013.12.13 13:32:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:If you are dying too easily while running profile dampeners then you need to equip a scanner yourself and change up your tactics.
There is a huge advantage to going around being unseen, yet seeing the position of your enemies. This allows you to get the drop on them quite often and enables you to choose your engagements. I used to run advanced Gal Logi with 2x Complex Extenders, a Basic Armor Plate, and 2x Complex Dampeners. The lower HP didn't hinder me as much as you'd think because my enemy was nearly dead by the time they knew that I was behind them and killing them.
If you're running dampeners and sticking with an undampened squad, then unless you are the flanking guy, you'll be at a disadvantage due to your lower HP and your squadmates giving you away. Uhh... You're a Gal Logi. You opinion doesn't count.
That is all :)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4701
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:06:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Actually I run Cal Logi and Cal Assault too. Unfortunately I can't run double dampeners on the advanced versions of either suit due to needing a CPU chip, hence my Gal Logi example.
But if your primary complaint is that armor tankers sacrifice too much when using dampeners, then don't use them and stick with your squad. Everyone knows that armor benefits more from squad support than does shields. No my complaint wasn't about armor specifically.
You said it yourself, until you reach proto you can't afford to fit a damp on the Caldari suit.
Gal Logis have a lot of low slots, in addition to have 4 equipment, meaning they can have a damp and a scanner while still having ammo, triage hives, proper amounts of HP, etc'.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4711
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Posted - 2013.12.13 18:41:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Have you tried using a scout?
All I know is that I always see "Scan Attempt Prevented" I love it when they see me, I disappear, then they scan and get no results for me. I dig it when they are lost without their scanner.
BTW cat merc my anti scanner fit (all of them) has waay more than 100 less HP than yours. You're a scout. Your suit automatically sucks :)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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