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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2013.12.13 09:13:00 -
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alot of tankers have a warped view on what teamwork actually is.
2+ guys assaulting a position together - teamwork
logibro doing his thing - teamwork
scout sneaking in behind enemy lines capturing points and dropping uplinks while the main force draws the enemy away - teamwork
tanks assaulting a position with guys on the ground - teamwork
tanks dropping off his crew so they can cap an objective while he offers covering fire - teamwork
what's not teamwork
1 guy assaulting a position by himself - not teamwork
an assault logi - not teamwork
assault scouts camping objectives instead of capping them to aid in winning the fight - not teamwork
tanks assaulting positions when there are no friendlies about to cap it instead of supporting objectives where there are friendlies about - not teamwork
tanks not fitting small turrets so as to allow crew in so that when he does assault he can drop them off or offer safe haven inside - not teamwork
as we have seen from day 1 of 1.7 every tank has all its small turrets removed and they are flying around the map like its gta. most of you may believe your being a team player because your killing people but caping objectives and protecting them is the game not seeing who kills the most. the stupid thing about it is people are doing all the above not teamwork things in faction warfare and losing the fight when only winning actually rewards you.
if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound.... this is exactly what most tankers are like, making noise where no one can hear it or in dust terms killing where killing is not necessary to the victory
i did a stint as a dust tanker but it wasn't for me. need to get my hands dirty. do i support tanks..all the time, do they support me, virtually never and thats the only real issue with tanks, there is no reason for them to work as a team.
i know a few well known good tankers who do all the above teamwork things but unfortunately i know 99% more who do only the non teamwork things.
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Eurydice Itzhak
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.12.13 09:20:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:alot of tankers have a warped view on what teamwork actually is.
2+ guys assaulting a position together - teamwork
logibro doing his thing - teamwork
scout sneaking in behind enemy lines capturing points and dropping uplinks while the main force draws the enemy away - teamwork
tanks assaulting a position with guys on the ground - teamwork
tanks dropping off his crew so they can cap an objective while he offers covering fire - teamwork
what's not teamwork
1 guy assaulting a position by himself - not teamwork
an assault logi - not teamwork
assault scouts camping objectives instead of capping them to aid in winning the fight - not teamwork
tanks assaulting positions when there are no friendlies about to cap it instead of supporting objectives where there are friendlies about - not teamwork
tanks not fitting small turrets so as to allow crew in so that when he does assault he can drop them off or offer safe haven inside - not teamwork
as we have seen from day 1 of 1.7 every tank has all its small turrets removed and they are flying around the map like its gta. most of you may believe your being a team player because your killing people but caping objectives and protecting them is the game not seeing who kills the most. the stupid thing about it is people are doing all the above not teamwork things in faction warfare and losing the fight when only winning actually rewards you.
if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound.... this is exactly what most tankers are like, making noise where no one can hear it or in dust terms killing where killing is not necessary to the victory
i did a stint as a dust tanker but it wasn't for me. need to get my hands dirty. do i support tanks..all the time, do they support me, virtually never and thats the only real issue with tanks, there is no reason for them to work as a team.
i know a few well known good tankers who do all the above teamwork things but unfortunately i know 99% more who do only the non teamwork things.
I would just like to say that Gunnlogi's cannot fit small turrets without sacrificing a RIDICULOUS amount of quality of life. I have managed to come up with one fit that can squeeze on a turret so far (luckily its a pretty good fit, that one spot is 90% to carry my scout buddy around)
When I get my last point into Large turret fitting and skill up into proto small turret fittings, I MIGHT be able to squeeze ONE turret on.
(which is now and forever the front turret, if you equip one turret, it goes on the front)
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 09:21:00 -
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I know 9 people max who are willing to actually help out vehicles, I know 99% more who don't try to help in any way at all and just use the vehicles as afk machines and free point farms
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.13 09:21:00 -
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Like I said earlier I only blow up installations if I have no gaurantee if my team can't hold it, for example A CRU by delta on the gallente lab outpost map its often too far away from battle to be capped and most folks don't know its there. It is more combat effective to deny enemy mission critical asest that allows them to keep D secured or more secure from Bravo point. Such as the CRU at delta itself is something I leave because its two things the guys have to hack before solidifying control of delta and its.
The other thing I have to worry about is making my battlefield safe for me as well, far to often these days I lose my tanks to combined fire of HAVs + installation fire + Infantry fire. I can deal with two of the factors effectively and I am primarily dealing with one of the vectors (HAVs) and making it unsafe for the hostile team as possible. Installations however especially hostile controlled ones are too threatening these days to leave alive.
As for small turrets
My current fit only has 2 PG left. What do you want me to do? The rail tank is the only tank I have with small guns on it and they're rather helpful when loaded for tank killing.
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