Why should AV be supplemental when it costs more than your tank?

Many do, however, have tanks less than 180k.
In some cases under half as much.

And still ridiculously effective.

why should av be supplemental to killing tanks when tanks are not in any way shape or form supplimental to killing EVERYTHING?

If it takes more than one proto AV to destroy a tank it should take more than one operator for a tank to reach full potential.

Tanks throughout history have been team vehicles.

At least 2 people to operate a tank. 1 driver / gunner and 1 active module operator / gunner.

So if no teamwork, which is now required of AV (and including a vehicle per OP) a tank should be an eggshell.

Easy to solo / repel.

Only as a team should they be strong. This is needed for balance because AV needs to team up to beat a tank and that means their team has to fit AV and be vulnerable to enemy infantry that doesn't. Losing primary slots to ineffectual swarms av nades or gimped FGs is a real hit while tankers get to multitask with modules and gunning.

Where's my backpack that shoots swarms while I fire my forge gun?

Tanks need to be broken into teams just like AV has been broken into teams.

Balance.

I'll say this

One forge gunner, allows me to kill 3 tanks, I will lose out on the kill credit but its 3 tanks dead.

Tanks are simply OP dropsuits at this point. The tanker's team suffers no penalty for a tank being fielded. They should lose one person to help with that kind of firepower, resistance and burst invincibility.

To say otherwise, that tanks need infantry to run with them, is endorsement of blob warfare.

That's cool we did that in beta, big circles of boredom.

As it stands, we have to grab newberries and get them to a depot, get them to change to AV and run them to a tank to destroy it.

A tanker you should have to pick up a newberry and teach them how to run your modules or get your ass blown up.

All in the name of FUN!

Shame that not many of the young 'uns have heard the phrase "boots on the ground"

tanks can kill a team....its what they're for, but guess who wins the match?

Nope.

As long as you get thousands of HP, are temporarily invincible and only have to use one person to do it you are OP.

Why doesn't everyone field a tank? Who doesn't want that kind of power? Even I am running tanks now.

You fail to address the point that a tanker's team does not suffer a penalty for fielding that kind of firepower. "Boots on the ground" is not a factor. Besides, why would my idea hurt that? Your newberry can jump out and hack points leaving you temporarily exposed.

It's FAIR.

I understand your point of view OP and I don't think you are wholly wrong but ONE person should be able to be destroyed by another single person. Teamwork should face off vs teamwork.

I've had a few tonite so I would like to say no ill will.

if you are using AV against tanks you are doing it wrong.

get a tank for 100k isk, cheaper than a proto fit required to even bother a tank, is much more effective and unlike the AV suit the tank is practically immune to infantry.

A tank does not sacrifice boot power. IT SHOULD which is my point. Extra person to run your modules.

How, if that is the case for both sides, is that unbalanced? You can still tank dance with the stars.

Strength should come at a price and it becomes a matter of whose tank team is better.

I don't like your idea which is why I present my own. Hopefully that isn't too convoluted for you.

But then again you like to title your threads with YOLO and say fgt so it doesn't surprise me.

first of all uplink spam causes framerate issues and no one wins with that kind of play.

beside that, games are won by keeping people AWAY from objectives, not by pressuring/hacking objectives. if you have to pressure objectives against a dedicated & organized PC team you are already losing the match. a tank, that is practically immune to infantry does anyway BOTH alot better compared to a suit that can die in 0.5 seconds to any weapon on the field.

sorry but this is just lazy gameplay on your part. you have, like anyone the option to carry uplinks on your suit, and nothing prevents you, to hop out for 1 second and drop an uplink when your modules are on cooldown cause you anyway should not be fighting at the frontline when your defense is down.

I dont get what there is not to comprehend? obviously you are not haveing more PC experience than me. if you want to capture a point you keep the enemy dead and away from it. you want economize your clones at all cost.

Funny, you're really struggling to insult me. That's what happens to people who get their potatoes pushed in with logic.

Your points are mediocre at best. Your insult was pathetic.

I hope CCP reconsiders tank balance to be more reliant other players since they obviously meant for there to be more than one person in a tank when they designed them.