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crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:05:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey FoxFour, can we get actual numbers for loyalty point payouts with regards to standings instead of guestimating with this horrid graph? Would like to make some tools but don't have the numbers. And that graph is horribly out of date... >.< I changed the numbers like 3 days before release :( Will try and get updated numbers out and in a table format as well instead of just graph. :) Who the hell liked this post? His mom?
YOU CHANGED IT 3 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE?
Can we please start a petition to get this person fired? Seriously you're in the wrong field, get out.
How did this happen?
How did you not know about the sticky REs?
Why does Wolfman keep getting surprised by unannounced weapon tweaks?
NAME ONE EVE ONLINE BLOG WHERE THE NUMBERS CHANGE 3 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE. You guys were just guessing. : ( Even the screenshot for Factional Warfare end of battle screen was a fake!
3 days is not horribly out of date, it's 3 days! |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey FoxFour, can we get actual numbers for loyalty point payouts with regards to standings instead of guestimating with this horrid graph? Would like to make some tools but don't have the numbers. And that graph is horribly out of date... >.< I changed the numbers like 3 days before release :( Will try and get updated numbers out and in a table format as well instead of just graph. :) Who the hell liked this post? His mom? YOU CHANGED IT 3 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE? Can we please start a petition to get this person fired? I don't know if it needs to go that far. They have their reasoning, it's just severely flawed.
No, nonsense, CCP has never done this kind of stuff with eve online. *can count exceptions on my hand...* I've been playing that game for 9 years, I'm here to support CCP, I can't stand watching this happen. I don't care that the numbers were changed, whats not ok is thinking it's ok to change the numbers 3 days before hand without telling the community. The dev blogs were released so they could make changes based on our feedback which is very important to us.
Obviously not for dust, only in Eve online do they make changes based on player feedback. The missle ammar ships are 100% taken from a player post, they barely tweaked his numbers.
Also in eve online patch notes are real. I'm getting sick of patches with SURPRISE FEATURES! |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:18:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Dev blog updated with this image:
[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/fw_devblog_11_lppayouttable.png[/img]
CCP Praetorian wrote:Uprising 1.7 serves as the latest important step on the DUST 514 journey, pulling together numerous additions and enhancements, whilst allowing us the opportunity to incorporate Community feedback in to our designs. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:35:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:While i think the payouts should be a little higher (wins are more expensive) i think people are expecting way too much.
Aero yassavi did the math, last post of page 2. 1LP is worth approximately 316 isk. So converting LP to ISK payouts look like this:
Level - LP - ISK Equivelent payout
0 - 326 - 103,016
2 - 375 - 118,500
4 - 432 - 136,512
6 - 497 - 157,052
8 - 572 - 180,752
10 - 659 - 208,244
1000 - 316,000
2000 - 632,000 - this level, and any number above it would be way too much.
Do keep in mind that salvage will be on top of these numbers, but from my experience its mostly a collection of milita / adv modules. I would value it at an average of 25k or less.
So while there are some items worth doing FW for, the ones with properties not available outside the Loyalty store, if you are just looking to gain wealth then FW is looking extremely poor for this.
200k a win is EASY to get in pub matches. 300-400k is not uncommon either, but is dependant on performance. With FW you are locked in to your rewards, and to even get up to the level of pub matches you have to grind and dedicate to a single faction for a good long while.
So tldr - CCP your being cheap and should double FW LP payouts.
Sorry you should of gave your feedback before the patch went live. Come on they released a dev blog, you can't upset becuase you already had a chance to give them feedback.
Also for the record he's a producer not a programmer. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:37:00 -
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Nikoli Gleimer wrote:no no no.....if you were to give someone over 2,000 lp per match if they have level 10 standing it would be insane....nobody would stop doing fw matches, nobody would ever use standard or advanced gear, they would just run proto, and nobody would do pubs. For instance I'm a proto gallente logi.....and my entire fitting costs 600 something lp.....now......this is a little ridiculous....that means on level 10 i would be able to afford 1 suit per match........with isk equivalent my suit is around 80k......i can die around 3 times and make some profit, but with lp i can't. i think they need to boost lp to over 1000 per match at level 10, but not something like 3 or 4 thousand like some of you guys are saying. I'm fine with having to grind lp with cheap suits for awhile if im low on lp, but atm im just runnning fw's with my cheap suits and slowly raising my standings and buying fittings for my logistics suit so i wont have to worry about lp later.
Just my opinion but atm i agree with most of you guys the lp needs to be raised or something needs to happen like lowering the cost of items in the lp store.
But one thing i really do enjoy is the salvage its one of my favorite things in fw.....its like christmas morning after every match....lol
You are missing the point. People who play dust are terrible at design and great at missing the point. THE NUMBERS ARE NOT IMPORTANT
we were promised a LP reward system that increases more as you level up. A curve graph with less gains at the start and more at the end.
Then 3 days before release this is changed to a straight line. With the same gains per level.
If you aren't mad GET MAD. The LP cost and the LP payouts are NOT IMPORTANT. We should demand the design persented to the playerbase not the untested/ feedback free version they slapped into the game 3 days before release. |
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Posted - 2014.01.03 03:42:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:35,000 down to 659.  Level 10 needs how many hundreds of winning games to get to? And that's if you don't lose any standings by playing for the wrong faction or accidentally doing too much damage/team killing. Every level should have their payout increased by at least 50%, which puts level 10 at roughly 1,000 LP per winning match. ^ This
no no no
If each level is increased a flat 50% you'd still have the same problem. the higher levels were suppose to give out a higher bonus. So the increase in LP rewards should be the lowest at level 1-2 but from level 9 to 10 there should be a large difference. This is following what they told us they would do in the devblog that came out a week before release... |
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