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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:26:00 -
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If it caps at 651 then I'll just stop playing FW altogether.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:49:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey FoxFour, can we get actual numbers for loyalty point payouts with regards to standings instead of guestimating with this horrid graph? Would like to make some tools but don't have the numbers. And that graph is horribly out of date... >.< I changed the numbers like 3 days before release :( Will try and get updated numbers out and in a table format as well instead of just graph. :)
Who the hell liked this post? His mom?
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:54:00 -
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Commander Tzu wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Gorra Snell wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:651 doesn't get you much equipment from the LP store... Yeah, that's like 4 PRO suits...which is, what, 240k isk on the 'regular' market? That's not a terrible ISK payout equivalent, but it's certainly not in 'highly rewarding' territory, which is what I'd expect from hundreds of hours spent gaining faction standing. EDIT: And, longterm, I assume the expectation is that you'll lose and win roughly the same amount, so this puts the max average payout closer to the the 130k-150k isk payout equivalent for match. There's not much incentive to play FW for the long haul with that sort of outcome. Considering the masses of LP Eve players can get something about 600 is really not much. Especially because we don't get LP that fast. Eve players can PLEX, shoot enemy militias, do missions and orbitals (had a pilot who got 92k LP in one Dust match). So I guess getting something about 1500 - 3000 LP for every match at standing 10 would be better. We still need ISK for FW gear anyways. Difference is, on EVE LP store items can actually cost thousands, tens of thousands, and hundreds of thousands of LP.
If you reach the highest standings and upgrade the system in Eve it's possible to generate enough LP to profit 300 million ISK/hr - 1.8 billion ISK/ hr (although this is considered unattainable).
Gaming the system
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:41:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:651 w/o booster?
Does it matter? Add or subtract 25% and it still sucks
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:08:00 -
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This is the kind of stuff that really makes me shake my head.
This is clueless stuff here.
Do you not see that now people can flip flop between factions because the standing mean very little? That's only the base of it. I could talk for hours about how far off base you guys are on this need for an ISK sink.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:11:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:The irony is: the higher the LP payout of FW, the larger the isk sink to counter the isk faucet of PC
Three types of players have a lot of ISK
1) the top 1% who are successful in PC
2) AFK grinders
3) BPO and Cheap suit grinders
The people who run 2.0 KDRs and use ADV and Proto gear have to eat Romen noodles 3x a day.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:21:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:WOW.
Well, back to pub matches then. FW was stuipid anyways. Only reason I played it was possibly to make my suit much cheaper...
But if it's capped out at 659, then I have to play 200 matches just to get one suit at a much cheaper cost. Or I can play one public match and get isk enough for 3.
Good job.
It makes my head hurt to try and figure out their reasoning for this.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:06:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey FoxFour, can we get actual numbers for loyalty point payouts with regards to standings instead of guestimating with this horrid graph? Would like to make some tools but don't have the numbers. And that graph is horribly out of date... >.< I changed the numbers like 3 days before release :( Will try and get updated numbers out and in a table format as well instead of just graph. :) Who the hell liked this post? His mom? YOU CHANGED IT 3 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE? Can we please start a petition to get this person fired?
I don't know if it needs to go that far.
They have their reasoning, it's just severely flawed.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2387
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Posted - 2013.12.16 01:24:00 -
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Valto Nyntus wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Let's do the math
1 Protosuit = 155 LP + 8,653 ISK
1 Protosuit = 57,690 ISK
155 LP + 8,653 ISK = 57,690 ISK
155 LP = 49,037 ISK
1 LP = 316.37 ISK
Level 10 winning = 659 LP = 208,486 ISK
Level 10 losing = 165 LP = 52,200 ISK
Level 10 requires strong devotion for your faction, only earned after 200 wins for that faction. Correction, you have to win 621 fw matches, you forgot to add all the levels win requirement.
Is this correct?
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