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Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:54:00 - [1] - Quote I haven't seen one of these yet so I suppose i'll start one. As we all know the Rail rifle and Combat Rifle have just been released and EVERYONE is using them. I am here to ask you guys which gun you prefer and why? I prefer the Rail Rifle to the Combat Rifle because I prefer the range the Rail Rifle offers compared to the Combat Rifle. The Combat Rifle also spits out all of its ammo in a very short amount of time; where as with the Rail Rifle you have lots of ammo o spare after each kill.
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 317	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:57:00 - [2] - Quote I like both at their own respective ranges just because they're new.
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1191	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:59:00 - [3] - Quote I like them both as well, but the CR feels just right to me. Both work well so neither is op. The evil hidden in the name
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1711	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:01:00 - [4] - Quote Rail Rifle, as the range is just bliss if on a fast Minnie Assault, I'm able to dictate most engagements and I usually come out on top due to that. Also it looks and sounds sexy. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 651	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:03:00 - [5] - Quote I prefer the CR IMO neither of them are OP
Aisha Ctarl Scions of Athra 2191	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:04:00 - [6] - Quote I prefer RR and have proto along with Prof 3. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 124	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote I've played with the AUR version of both, and I prefered the RR. I have since used one my my alts and used the Ishukone Assault RR -- I'm in LOVE. I'll play with the higher level CR this weekend, but for now I prefer the RR.
Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:07:00 - [8] - Quote Lets get a little more why you like these guns in here! I wanna know if you think on gun is too circumstantial or if the other is OP and why!? Just give me some information on how you think the gun feels and if its good or bad and what are the pros and cons. Those are just some examples, not rules to follow.
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 131	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:07:00 - [9] - Quote CR it fits with my playstyle perfectly "and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts Closed Beta Vet
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 876	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:08:00 - [10] - Quote Both weapons seem to be very good due to low bonuses/penalties. Bonuses against armor is also good due to the current meta :) Havent decided if im gonna spec into rail yet. ScR is very good still as ive understood! KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL

Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 869	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:08:00 - [11] - Quote I prefer the RR. !
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 347	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:11:00 - [12] - Quote Rail rifle on a Dual tanked amarr assault its like running around with a LMG, And the Rail rifle feels solid and heavy, unlike a lot of guns in this it don't feel like it's made of plastic
Cosgar ParagonX 8567	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:12:00 - [13] - Quote I like my he combat rifle because it makes GaLogis cry. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Mass Heals Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:21:00 - [14] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I like my he combat rifle because it makes GaLogis cry. yeah we lost some speed too.
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 386	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:21:00 - [15] - Quote Combat rifle, its all about the rpm -Bazookah Tooth HMG for Life
Cosgar ParagonX 8568	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:26:00 - [16] - Quote Mass Heals wrote: Cosgar wrote: I like my he combat rifle because it makes GaLogis cry. yeah we lost some speed too. Not really, they just fixed the plate bug. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 64	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote Yours truly will probably be speccing into the RR because of the: GÇó Wuuuuheeee and the TUD, TUD, TUD, sound it makes, which pleases me. GÇó The range gives me a little more time to line up my shots. GÇó I'm happy with the clip size. GÇó the lights are pretty. GÇó I like how the scope is designed GÇó I tend to die less with it, which is nice. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo 1118	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:50:00 - [18] - Quote Combat Rifle. It's hipfire is godsend, and it makes for a very versatile Short-Mid range weapon. It synergizes VERY well with a Minmatar Assault suit, as the SMG perfectly compliments the weapon. It's hard to use it at ranges farther than 60m, but that's mainly due to it's horrible scope. The target is so tiny at that distance Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 60	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:52:00 - [19] - Quote beat ya to it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127114 (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "fuck this I'm out"... ... ..."I'm back"
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 285	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:56:00 - [20] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I've played with the basic AUR version of both, and I prefered the RR. I didn't like the burst mode on the basic CR. I have since skilled up one my my alts with RR to Level 4 and used the Ishukone Assault RR -- I'm in LOVE. Very close in terms of feel to my weapon of choice (AR) but with a great deal more punch at distance and does more damage against those pesky armor tankers (I'm a Caldari in-game). Hipfire up close also seems to be quite good. I'll play with the higher level CR this weekend, but for now I prefer the RR. You are not a Caldari. You are gallente. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 952	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:58:00 - [21] - Quote CR considering considering my strength is tactical fighting in areas with lots of cover.
pseudosnipre 389	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:08:00 - [22] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I've played with the basic AUR version of both, and I prefered the RR. I didn't like the burst mode on the basic CR. I have since skilled up one my my alts with RR to Level 4 and used the Ishukone Assault RR -- I'm in LOVE. Very close in terms of feel to my weapon of choice (AR) but with a great deal more punch at distance and does more damage against those pesky armor tankers (I'm a Caldari in-game). Hipfire up close also seems to be quite good. I'll play with the higher level CR this weekend, but for now I prefer the RR. tl;dr RR if AA, ACR for recon Bought aurum versions of the ACR and ARR. Didn't care for the RR over my laser for that range, but loving the ACR for the playstyle that falls between cqc sg and support lsr. It burns ammo FAST though if you aren't judicious with it. One clip was burning heavies down to quarter armor...so bring an SMG for mop up. Also ACR has a rather phallic iron sign much akin to eastern European assault rifles...not a fan of the RR scope. Using the RR I caught myself getting anxious waiting for it to put an opponent down and hipfire seemed unreliable with only level 1. Also, no sharpshooter for RR. With that being said, most AR users seem to prefer the aded oompf of the RR, as that is what is dropping me most often now...still longer ttk than AR though. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 496	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:08:00 - [23] - Quote I'm all in on the Rail Rifle. Operation V, Proficiency IV, Optimization III, Reload II, Ammo III...yeah, I was saving up for a while. The rail works very well with my playstyles and pairs pretty good with my CalAssault. I stay at range and work flanks continuously, this allows me to control the environment a bit more and take advantage of shield tanking support modules for the first time. I do routinely switch to my SMG for closer work or when things are getting hectic with multiple targets....on that note, I want my Caldari MagSec SMG (a lot). I have only given the CR a brief spin and found that I liked it quite a bit. As noted earlier int he thread it's a great complementary piece to the SMG. I could have dropped the saved SP into the CR and I would have been pretty happy but I prefer the striking power and aesthetics of the rail. Ultimately I chose the RR since I had choosen to go full Caldari in my setups. Besides, might be some nice perks or bonuses down the line if your have synergy in your fittings or perhaps a weapon centric bonus for Caldari assault suits (the other 3 races have them).
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1192	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:12:00 - [24] - Quote Crixus Mrutaar wrote: Lets get a little more why you like these guns in here! I wanna know if you think on gun is too circumstantial or if the other is OP and why!? Just give me some information on how you think the gun feels and if its good or bad and what are the pros and cons. Those are just some examples, not rules to follow. The assault CR has a much higher rate of fire with little kick. The assault RR has kick and can drift on you. Also the assault RR is hard to follow other players if they are strafing. I am one of those players who prefer iron sights over a scope when it comes to AR. I love the damage output of the RR, but the kick throws me off when i am aiming. It might be my settings as to why I am having a hard time adjusting to the RR. Using the scope version of RR is difficult for I am use to a sniper rifle and I like to be a good distance away when I am firing, unfortunately it cause's me to not do as much damage. Then of course I cant do much damage to the red even though I am hitting them, but they can turn and hit me with a lot more damage and I have my RR at proficiency lvl 3. The downside of the CR to me is it needs a larger magazine and both weapons need more ammo in reserve. I just have to give it time and get better is all or maybe I am not meant to use the RR and should just stick with the CR???? The evil hidden in the name
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2066	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:13:00 - [25] - Quote both
Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:17:00 - [26] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: beat ya to it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127114 Your thread does not have the in depth discussion that my thread has achieved! MWAHAHA! I ALWAYS WIN!
Lanius Pulvis Kinsho Swords Caldari State 111	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:19:00 - [27] - Quote I like them both, because it's a nice change from seeing ARs in the kill feed. Not new, just new to you.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 98	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:20:00 - [28] - Quote RR prof 5 with one damage mod....its nutz The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:21:00 - [29] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: I like them both, because it's a nice change from seeing ARs in the kill feed. But now there is no more plain AR EVERYONE is either Combat Rifle Logi's or heavies with HMG's
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 801	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:27:00 - [30] - Quote Crixus Mrutaar wrote: Lanius Pulvis wrote: I like them both, because it's a nice change from seeing ARs in the kill feed. But now there is no more plain AR EVERYONE is either Combat Rifle Logi's or heavies with HMG's and that's a problem why? Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?

Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:37:00 - [31] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Crixus Mrutaar wrote: Lanius Pulvis wrote: I like them both, because it's a nice change from seeing ARs in the kill feed. But now there is no more plain AR EVERYONE is either Combat Rifle Logi's or heavies with HMG's and that's a problem why? Its a problem not in the sense that it needs to be fixed. It's just it would be cool to see all kinds of suits with all kinds of weapons; however they do need to fix the Logi suits those things are OP as hell and that's why you don't see any Assault because a Logi makes a better Assault then an Assault does. So all I am saying is it would be cool to see Logi's with a diverse weapon background instead of just the Combat Rifle. BTW I like your name
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 125	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:39:00 - [32] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: I've played with the basic AUR version of both, and I prefered the RR. I didn't like the burst mode on the basic CR. I have since skilled up one my my alts with RR to Level 4 and used the Ishukone Assault RR -- I'm in LOVE. Very close in terms of feel to my weapon of choice (AR) but with a great deal more punch at distance and does more damage against those pesky armor tankers (I'm a Caldari in-game). Hipfire up close also seems to be quite good. I'll play with the higher level CR this weekend, but for now I prefer the RR. You are not a Caldari. You are gallente. Don't let my starter suit and the icon to the right fool you. I play Caldari virtually exclusively -- Logi and Assault.
Crixus Mrutaar NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:41:00 - [33] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: I've played with the basic AUR version of both, and I prefered the RR. I didn't like the burst mode on the basic CR. I have since skilled up one my my alts with RR to Level 4 and used the Ishukone Assault RR -- I'm in LOVE. Very close in terms of feel to my weapon of choice (AR) but with a great deal more punch at distance and does more damage against those pesky armor tankers (I'm a Caldari in-game). Hipfire up close also seems to be quite good. I'll play with the higher level CR this weekend, but for now I prefer the RR. You are not a Caldari. You are gallente. Don't let my starter suit and the icon to the right fool you. I play Caldari virtually exclusively -- Logi and Assault. *left
Kharga Lum Xeno Labs Security 149	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:45:00 - [34] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: I like them both, because it's a nice change from seeing ARs in the kill feed. All I see now are CR's in the kill feed. Their effective range is comparative to the Assault Riffle only the CR considerably more damage. My heavy alt gets ruined by CR's at up to 60m faster then the Scramblers can.
Severa Falconi Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:54:00 - [35] - Quote I like the RR because I normally play like a tactical designated marksman. Close rear or flanks is where I like to be, and the RR gives me the ability to do it. I like the delay between shots, I like the ability to kill a heavy with no help, and I love its aesthetics. I actually stopped sniping because of this weapon.
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 183	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:03:00 - [36] - Quote Crixus Mrutaar wrote: The Combat Rifle also spits out all of its ammo in a very short amount of time. That and that its basically a burst tac AR with more range ,a fast ; consistent feeling RoF ,and more overall damage output considering you hardly ever miss any round from each burst (96 with 18 bursts vs 74 base with 18 single shots) No one ever pays me in gum :<
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 148	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:16:00 - [37] - Quote I'm finding that the CR is suiting the playstyle on my scout suit really well, but not on my assault suit. Haven't gotten to Ops 4 yet to try out the ACR, but I've got a feeling that will fit with the assault role better. Only problem at the moment is that it's a little light on damage, but I'm hoping that getting it up to Pro 3 will fix that. Have tried the RR but the spool time to start shooting is too much for me. Apparently I'm a bit to much into fast twitch shooting for it to be effective
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 1977	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:19:00 - [38] - Quote The Combat Rifle is my new Tac AR. Enough said. 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1237	Posted - 2013.12.17 03:28:00 - [39] - Quote Increase the magazine size in the CR and it would be perfect. Like I said before it needs to be at least 80 rounds. The evil hidden in the name


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