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Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 867	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:25:00 - [1] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: +1 equip slot Slight speed increase larger profile drop better hit detection These are the things most scout are asking for (damage output was actually never suggested). Your list would be overdoing it a bit (scouts will, for the first time ever, be OP...maybe) I want a purpose. Give me E-War. !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 867	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:30:00 - [2] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Krom Ganesh wrote: I want a purpose. Give me E-War. I want to assassinate red dots. Give me cloaks. And profile dampening that is balanced. The Scanner is OP vs. Scouts. I count cloak as part of E-War. And the scanner is OP vs. Everyone. !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 867	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:40:00 - [3] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Just a side question for you, not to take away from the fun here, you can thru passive skills get below ADV scanners and all other suites natural precision, 1 complex mod gets you below Proto scanners, and you are the only suite that can get below the focused. How is the scanner OP vs scouts? If the scanner still gives margins of error, then it doesn't matter if we avoid the scan. If an enemy knows the scout is in the area, the scout is put at an even greater disadvantage. Aside from that, the fact only 1 (or perhaps 2 when the Amarr scout arrives) can completely avoid scanners is a bit unfair. Edit: For this, I would recommend that all light suits have a base profile and scan precision of 40. Additionally, the focused should be brought up to 18db and regular protos should be brought down to 24. That way all scouts* can avoid the focused by using 2x cmp dampeners but still require 1x bsc dampener to avoid proto scanners. *All scouts should have at least two lows (including the cal scout) !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 867	Posted - 2013.12.12 17:46:00 - [4] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Krom Ganesh wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Just a side question for you, not to take away from the fun here, you can thru passive skills get below ADV scanners and all other suites natural precision, 1 complex mod gets you below Proto scanners, and you are the only suite that can get below the focused. How is the scanner OP vs scouts? If the scanner still gives margins of error, then it doesn't matter if we avoid the scan. If an enemy knows the scout is in the area, the scout is put at an even greater disadvantage. Aside from that, the fact only 1 (or perhaps 2 when the Amarr scout arrives) can completely avoid scanners is a bit unfair. Ok, I didn't realize all the min scouts only have 1 low slot. They have two but you need three complex dampeners to avoid the focused. Added my recommended fix for this to the post btw. !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 869	Posted - 2013.12.12 18:18:00 - [5] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Ah. I hadn't done the math. That thing lights for 6 seconds though yea? (Scan duration) you can't sprint out of scanners anymore. I've never been scanned by one so I know their not widely used, but if you do get scanned by a focused scanner, you can probably get to him and kill him before he can put the scanner away. 6 seconds is longer than the scrambler rifle cool down. I look at the SP investment involved. Proto scanners require around ~1 mil SP Lvl5 scout + Lvl5 dampening requires ~3.3 mil SP It costs a lot more to try and avoid the focused than it is to use it. Also, the scanner still has 100m range and scouts operate best in places within large outposts. It is quite likely we wouldn't be able to reach the scanner unless we were already tracking them. And if the scanner is with a squad, we are completely out of luck. !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 871	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:29:00 - [6] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: That being said, I have no skills in scouts suites and have no concept of the pain you guys feel. But it seems like given extreme db advantage scouts have you guys should be singing "I got 99 problems but a scanner ain't one" I view it as one of our less serious problems (though I am a Gal scout). It's also less of a problem because we are so UP right now. If scouts were a major threat, the focused would be a lot more prevalent. @pseudosnipre What are you talking about? They do that now. !
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 884	Posted - 2013.12.12 20:53:00 - [7] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: I heard that null cannon view has been disabled? If true scouts will have a fair yet huge upper hand on lone mercs Yes, it has been and it's glorious. !

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